Make sense?

[fisheater]

I took this from another forum so this is not my writing.Was a very enjoyable read that made so much sense to me it was unreal.Its about open-carry.Now ive always have been an armed citizen of my home but why not openly all the time to protect my wife,children and myself.Im a sane individual with no criminal history,intent or do i have the intent to ever be,do you know this of the general public that walks around you?


"While I generally OC because it is more comfortable, a quicker draw, and a deterrant to crime, I have also realized that it sends a "message" to people as well. While my original goal is not to "brandish" or "intimidate" people, in some cases I have realized that an openly-carried handgun is essentially a "behavior moderation tool." I am frankly quite sick of how on a day-to-day basis I keep having to put up with disorderly behavior from grown adults in public places and while most people would say "such is life" or "you are not going to have it perfect" I disagree with such an outlook. We are supposed to be a nation of laws where people behave in a law-abiding and civilized manner. Unfortunately, we have become a nation of endless coddling, no discipline, and blind acceptance of everyone regardless of whether merit is there or not.

I consider myself a civilized person as I am generally respectful to people. I try not to tie up lines, I hold doors for people, smile and say "Hi" if someone is looking my direction, move out of people's way, pick up something for someone if they dropped it, and other common courtesy techniques. At the same time, I have noticed that OC acts as a "filter" towards other people's behavior. If other people are generally acting in a civilized manner, they won't care that I'm armed, many won't even notice or give it a second thought if they do, and if anything there would be a positive response to it. People who are uncivilized who for instance, can't control their kids, are excessively loud and obnoxious, bounce around or otherwise act disorderly in public, and other "ghetto"-type crap behavior tend to get very nervous around me OCing and likely see it as brandishing and a form of intimidation. Some here may disagree with me when I say this but my response is that towards those types of people, it IS intimidation. This society needs a level of discipline that is almost completely absent and unfortunately in many ways the only way to get the message across is the conscious reminder of deadly force. Ask yourself how many ghetto-type gang-bangers would continue to act up at a 7-11 if suddenly a couple of military vehicles pull up and about ten Marines enter. There is a reason for this. A civilized person simply knows better how to act. A person who behaves like an animal only understands the use of force and punishment. People who act like animals understand what pistols, shotguns, and rifles imply and behave accordingly.

We pride ourselves in this country of the "freedom to associate." Likewise, you have the freedom NOT to associate and the right to be left alone. I'll give a couple of examples here. I had a disturbing incident in my apartment where I was taking an afternoon nap when I hear someone banging on my walls aggressively. Next thing I know kids are beating at my windows, throwing things at my walls, and in one case a kid climbed over the back fence and was trespassing on my back patio. I yelled at the kids and they continued to come back and repeat this type of behavior. At the same time, I can see a number of parents far off in the distance watching and clearly having no concern over their children's criminal behavior. So I strapped on a pistol openly, came outside and began yelling at the kids to cut the crap out or there will be hell to pay. In an angry manner, I walked around the grounds picking up the trash they threw and took it out to the waste dumpsters. I continued to shoot the parents nasty looks not knowing which kids belonged to which parents. After revolving around my apartment three or four times blatantly armed and with the deliberate attempt to make sure everyone knew that not only I was armed but really pissed off, I finally went back inside. All the snot-nosed kids ran probably crying to their mommies and the upset parents decided to bring them inside and in essence I cleared about 20-30 total people out of the area.

Now let's re-evaluate the situation. Suppose I came out unarmed and confronted the parents directly. Considering that these people are social garbage or they wouldn't allow this behavior in the first place, the parents would likely behave as bad if not worse than their own children. I have confronted adults before who in turn have gotten in my face, threatened me, and behaved in the typical "ghetto" fashion of "I'll kick your a$$." I have learned that some people are so bankrupt culturally that honestly the only way to send a message is by being an armed citizen. People may think they are "tough" and they may or may not speak English but the presence of firearms is a language that just about everyone understands. Granted, the intent was not to "terrorize" the children or "put fear" into the parents because after all it is not like I am going to shoot someone for interrupting my sleep. However, it does speak the language that I refuse to put up with other people's crap especially when it is directed directly towards me.

The second example has to do with convenience stores late at night (or anytime actually). I have noticed how I can go into a store carrying concealed and you will have kids running around screaming, homeless bums bothering people for handouts, and wannabe gang-bangers jiving, bouncing around in the line, using filthy language, and staring people down. However, when I am in the establishment OCing, for some interesting reason all of the kids are well-behaved, the parents have full control over them, the bums are rather quickly leaving the premises, and the gang-bangers are acting suprisingly civilized and the amount of people loitering about immediately goes to ZERO.

People may cry "I don't want to go back to the Old West" but the truth is that the Old West in certain degrees was far more civilized. People knew how to act and they acted right. Likewise, while I deep down don't really want to go around trying to intimidate people, I have realized that I have the human and constitutional right to be left alone and should not and will not put up with grown adults refusing to conduct themselves in a civilized orderly fashion. Enough said."

How to you feel about this and did it make as much sense to you as it did to me?





"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Heinlein, Beyond this Horizon

[GeoFisher]

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[Tyme2fish]

The world must be coming to an end. I actually agree with a post from slippedcork.

[fisheater]

The world must be coming to an end. I actually agree with a post from slippedcork.

LOL, Wrong thread Tyme.

[Tyme2fish]

LOL, Wrong thread Tyme.

Dang! Sorry about that fisheater.
I knew something was wrong when I agreed on your post but that I mistakenly thought was posted by slippedcork.

[DJD]

I agree that it's good to have options but I also know that you cannot carry everywhere and you have to be careful.
We carry while fishing, riding the ATV or the Harley cause' you never know if someone wants to see a pistol up close.
Good post.

[slippedcork]

Dang! Sorry about that fisheater.
I knew something was wrong when I agreed on your post but that I mistakenly thought was posted by slippedcork.

Werent me, I aint that scared as the ole boy who wrote the article. I would however like to know what site it came from though?

[fisheater]

Werent me, I aint that scared as the ole boy who wrote the article. I would however like to know what site it came from though?

Scared?Where do you get scared from anything in that article?Not that it matters but a women wrote that article,that doesnt change a great or correct thought process though.

[slippedcork]

Scared?Where do you get scared from anything in that article?Not that it matters but a women wrote that article,that doesnt change a great or correct thought process though.

I never seen where a woman wrote the article ? What site did you get this from?

[fisheater]

opencarry.org,now where in that article do you see someone as being scared?

[mhall]

opencarry.org,now where in that article do you see someone as being scared?

John, don't try to figure this one out....... you'd figure freaking Stonehenge out before you gotta handle on this one. He is on a island all by himself, I guess the patients at Central State have access to computers now???

[fisheater]

"Unfortunately, we have become a nation of endless coddling, no discipline, and blind acceptance of everyone regardless of whether merit is there or not."