Glad you posted it BASS cause I was going to. Real scary stuff huh.![]()

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Glad you posted it BASS cause I was going to. Real scary stuff huh.![]()
Like I said this guy has no business talking to my kids. I wonder what this speech looked like before all the turmoil? Why doesn't he talk about his associations with terrorists, slumlords and tax evaders?
That would be a better lesson....look kids I did anything I wanted with whoever I wanted and still got elected POTUS.
Sorry you can shine that turd all you want but it's still a turd....I don't trust him at all.
I seriously disagree with the President's ideology and political actions, but this is one I have no problem with. It's a good message and school kids should hear it, particularly inner city kids. That said, I find it ironic the kids he's talking to will be shouldering the tax burden for his socialist policies.
If he'd released the contents when he announced he was going to speak to the schools, there never would've been such a fuss. If our President hadn't broken so many campaign promises and polarized our country so badly, we'd trust him enough not to make a fuss.
[QUOTE=Devils Horse;381611]I seriously disagree with the President's ideology and political actions, but this is one I have no problem with. It's a good message and school kids should hear it, particularly inner city kids. QUOTE]
I agree with you on this (up to that point at leas). Dang what has gotten into me - you guys are making some sense to me. It must have been the couple of hours I listened to S. Hannity this weekend on a drive - can't believe I just admitted that.
Pretty vanilla speech. I'll bet a lot of people who were cowering at home with their kids to protect them from Obama the evil one feel a bit foolish...
So you don't think he changed his speech to appeal to the public? The outcry was tremendous and it shows how the systems can work.
Why would you call that foolish? It's working in the Town Hall meetings as well. Do you feel that is foolish?
You seem to stay so in the middle on issues that it might seem foolish to you but once you stand for something (like voting) and casting your concrete opinion then you have a legit comment.......don't you think? Do you have kids?
The "fool" will do whatever or say whatever to get in the publics good graces.
They will all do or say whatever to get in the public's good graces.So you don't think he changed his speech to appeal to the public? The outcry was tremendous and it shows how the systems can work.
Why would you call that foolish? It's working in the Town Hall meetings as well. Do you feel that is foolish?
You seem to stay so in the middle on issues that it might seem foolish to you but once you stand for something (like voting) and casting your concrete opinion then you have a legit comment.......don't you think? Do you have kids?
The "fool" will do whatever or say whatever to get in the publics good graces.
He may very well have changed the speech, but I found it very foolish that there was such a large public outcry.
It was a simple, short speech to schoolchildren. The fact that people made such fools of themselves over this just show that we live in a time and a culture where everyone has to be offended or opposed to everything that goes on.
I said it before the speech and I stick to it now that I heard it. There was no reason to make a big deal about a president speaking to schools.
(Maybe it just seems I'm in the middle, but I am very, very hard to the right on most issues - especially those dealing with government, taxation and fiscal policy. I do have some left leaning opinions on some social issues, but in general I am on the right)
We can chalk it up to agreeing to disagree. I don't call the act of parenting foolish...it's our decision as parents to raise our kids the way we see fit not the schools decision. I feel more people should be active in theirs kids lives and that includes what happens at schools.They will all do or say whatever to get in the public's good graces.
He may very well have changed the speech, but I found it very foolish that there was such a large public outcry.
It was a simple, short speech to schoolchildren. The fact that people made such fools of themselves over this just show that we live in a time and a culture where everyone has to be offended or opposed to everything that goes on.
I said it before the speech and I stick to it now that I heard it. There was no reason to make a big deal about a president speaking to schools.
(Maybe it just seems I'm in the middle, but I am very, very hard to the right on most issues - especially those dealing with government, taxation and fiscal policy. I do have some left leaning opinions on some social issues, but in general I am on the right)
I do find it ironic that teachers and educators always say parents should be more involved and when they do we get labeled as foolish.![]()
If the guy was an upstanding person I would not have a problem with him speaking to my kids but he is the bottom of the barrel and I'm being nice.
Nobody's saying to not get involved or don't parent, but I just don't see why this was such a big issue or why so many people wanted to get involved this time.We can chalk it up to agreeing to disagree. I don't call the act of parenting foolish...it's our decision as parents to raise our kids the way we see fit not the schools decision. I feel more people should be active in theirs kids lives and that includes what happens at schools.
I do find it ironic that teachers and educators always say parents should be more involved and when they do we get labeled as foolish.![]()
If the guy was an upstanding person I would not have a problem with him speaking to my kids but he is the bottom of the barrel and I'm being nice.
Heck, I wouldn't be opposed to all presidents speaking every year to students for 15 minutes. I think it's an educational opportunity for the students.
In other words, I just don't see how this was such a big deal.
I think Jim mentioned something that was spot on in an earlier post and it boils down to not trusting this guy. His character is flawed beyond belief. He lies about anything to get out of a jam and takes no responsibility for anything. If he was a neighbor of mine with past terrorists associations I would not talk to him...that's what I think of him.Nobody's saying to not get involved or don't parent, but I just don't see why this was such a big issue or why so many people wanted to get involved this time.
Heck, I wouldn't be opposed to all presidents speaking every year to students for 15 minutes. I think it's an educational opportunity for the students.
In other words, I just don't see how this was such a big deal.
He has no qualifications to be the Pres. and his past associations and administration appointments prove my point. He is a puppet and was used by the Lib party to gain power. Hillary would not have secured the black vote as the "fool" did....that is my opinion of course.
I don't have the luxury of waiting to see how things are going to turn out when making choices on parenting. I go with what I know based on my experience, ignorance, feeling, advice or whatever.
Agree with you! The POTUS is supposed to be a leader, leaders talk to their people to set goals, set responsibilities, and to provide a common and shared desired end state.Nobody's saying to not get involved or don't parent, but I just don't see why this was such a big issue or why so many people wanted to get involved this time.
Heck, I wouldn't be opposed to all presidents speaking every year to students for 15 minutes. I think it's an educational opportunity for the students.
In other words, I just don't see how this was such a big deal.
If telling kids they need to be responsible, learn, and be productive citizens is a "learning experience", then please tell me what their parents have been teaching them at home?
I agree let him START leading and quit these speeches and public appearancesAgree with you! The POTUS is supposed to be a leader, leaders talk to their people to set goals, set responsibilities, and to provide a common and shared desired end state.
If telling kids they need to be responsible, learn, and be productive citizens is a "learning experience", then please tell me what their parents have been teaching them at home?....so far his leadership skills are zilch! Wonder what that little speech cost the tax payers? Anyone know?
