Another Rant

[mhall]

A TON of things we take for granted come DIRECTLY from military or Space related projects.

* Microwave Communication.
* Satellite Communication/Cell Phones
* Food preservation,
* Electronics miniturization.
* Computers.
* ARPA-NET /Internet.

And about 6 BILLION other things we use in our daily life are DIRECTLY related to this funding.

So I guess it was a complete WASTE of our money.......yea.

Later,

Geo

Show me proof and explain to me how going to the moon gave us the things you mentioned.
I didn't say the entire program of NASA and I definetely didn't denounce military efforts was all bad.

What I said was SPACE EXPLORATION is a waste of tax payers money and I stand behind that. You say it brought all this good stuff, explain in detail and make us believe it's so, because personally I think that's alot of bullcrap. I edited the last word so his Grumpness wouldn't Zap my post, lol.

[Bobby Headrick]

It would be good to colinize the moon, we need the space for more wal marts and laywer office's/ lol lol loll lol lolllll:d

[bassin_bug]

I'm interested in the food preservation. I'm going to be mad if I find out there is a better method than freezing food or canning it like grandma, mama, 'n me have always done. I hate shelling peas, cleaning corn, and peeling 'maters, apples, and peaches to can. We canned or froze everything that grew in the garden, and everything from the hogs and calves that was edible. It has always worked and the only space that we used was the kitchen sink and cabinet tops. We never worried about it spoiling unless a storm knocked out the power.

Tell me how I can take a shortcut and use space for food preservation instead of working my fingers to the bone. Does it taste as good and the kind made in mama's kitchen?

[GeoFisher]

Here are a few things:

1. Smoke Detector Originally installed on the Skylab space station in early 1970s to alert crew members of unexpected fumes, smoke detectors are now required by law in every U.S. residence to prevent house fires. Yeah, it’s not just there to beeping annoy you when the battery needs changing.

2. Black & Decker Cordless tools Recruited by NASA in 1971, Black & Decker constructed cordless, battery-powered instruments that allowed Apollo astronauts to collect lunar samples more easily during risky space walks. Thanks to that, we can all vacuum in those hard to reach corners.

3. Speedo LZR Swimsuit Where do you go when you have a fluid dynamics problem? In 2004, swimwear retailer SpeedoUSA relied on NASA technology to create a new and improved swimsuit that practically takes friction out of the equation. The controversial, full-body suit was first sported in Feb. 2008, and not so surprisingly, a dozen world records were crushed by March. The fabric had been invented for space travel to eliminate chafing on space walks and during high g-force situations.

4. Orthodontic Braces A nickel and titanium "memory metal" known as Nitinol, originally developed by NASA for aerospace uses, is quickly replacing traditional steel dental braces. This new alloy does not crimp when bent and returns to its original shape as teeth shift! This reduces the amount of painful adjustments required through high school. (Physical adjustments that is, not emotional. Sorry kids, you’re going to have to work that out on your own.)

5. Fogless Goggles Skiing can be hazardous, especially when you can't see where you're going. NASA developed an anti-fogging solution to keep spacecraft windows cloudless before takeoff and upon reentry. The glass gets treated with a special water/detergent/oil combo to ensure clarity. And then they took care of your fancy goggles.

6. Ear Thermometer In an effort to identify newborn suns, NASA replaced standard mercury-filled thermometers with infrared-sensing cameras to detect tricky heat signatures. And now doctors use the same technology to take your temperature in your ear.

7. Space Pens (or Gravity Pens) Apollo 7 astronauts traded their trusty pencils for Fisher Space Pens developed for their 1968 mission. While gravity supplies regular pens with ink flow, requiring a level writing surface, space pen cartridges are pressurized to provide ink at all times. And they work well in extreme temperatures (and have changed the dynamics of graduation gifts!).

8. Thermal Boots and Gloves NASA provided Apollo astronauts with revolutionary thermal boots and gloves in their spacesuits. With heat generated by embedded rechargeable batteries, fingers and toes remained nimble during crucial space walks (and now, of course, freezing Chicago commutes).

9. Hand-held Video Cameras In order to shoot that famous footage we all saw recently, of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon, NASA had to create a camera that was small enough to ride on the leg of the lunar lander. The end result is cameras that previously cost a ton of money and only could be afforded by TV stations are now small and cheap enough for the average consumer to buy.

10. Calculators and PCs Thanks to NASA, the adding machine went the way of the saber-tooth tiger. As with the videocamera, electronic components had to be shrunk in order to fit in those tiny space ships and be able to perform multiple calculating tasks regarding trajectory, life support, fuel burn, and so on. IBM achieved its greatest success in 1966 for the two-man Gemini 11 flight, with a computer the size of a shoebox. Those same chips became the basis for pocket calculators and, later, personal computers.

11. Swipe cards This one's our favorite. Software that was created to handle multiple onboard systems -- that is, being able to recognize data coming from different sources and identifying those sources -- is the basis for the strip technology that can be found on most credit and debit cards.

12. Graphite Guitars Guitars manufactured with the same super-resilient graphite used in NASA's space shuttles are making airwaves these days. Besides providing musicians with enhanced tone and sturdier instruments, the lightweight material emits sound 11 times faster than wood.

13. Zen perfume Want to smell like a rose that bloomed on the Discovery shuttle for 10 days? Sent by International Flavors and Fragrance s in 1998 as part of an experiment to assess how weightlessness affects flora, scientists found that major chemical components of the rose had changed in zero gravity. The new, more-aromatic-than-roses-on-Earth scent has been infused in Shiseido perfume, Zen.

Here is a link :

http://www.sti.nasa.gov/spinoff/spin...pinsort=ISSUED

[mhall]

And I still say going to the moon started none of that. And for God's sake......SPEEDO'S...''Well that's just gay. There are no men alive except Olympic swimmers that should ever even try those things on never the less actually where those things in public. Oh the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DJD]

And I still say going to the moon started none of that. And for God's sake......SPEEDO'S...''Well that's just gay. There are no men alive except Olympic swimmers that should ever even try those things on never the less actually where those things in public. Oh the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL...I picture an overstuffed sausage when I think of some people wearing those!!

[Tim_T]

Here are a few things:

1. Smoke Detector Originally installed on the Skylab space station in early 1970s to alert crew members of unexpected fumes, smoke detectors are now required by law in every U.S. residence to prevent house fires. Yeah, it’s not just there to beeping annoy you when the battery needs changing.

Since when are smoke detectors required by law? That one is a new one on me.

[DJD]

Since when are smoke detectors required by law? That one is a new one on me.

Yep any new Residential dwelling is required to have smokes in the bedrooms, outside the bedrooms and at least one on each floor. The Building Codes require it and they have to be in tandum so if one sounds they all sound.

[Chubminnow]

Yep any new Residential dwelling is required to have smokes in the bedrooms, outside the bedrooms and at least one on each floor. The Building Codes require it and they have to be in tandum so if one sounds they all sound.

Don it sounds like you work for a consulting engineering firm...so do I.

[RoadToad]

Some of the things George mentioned might not have come directly from "going to the moon," but I don't think you can separate going to the moon from the overall space program, and they certainly did come from that. Look at the cost of this last moon mission, about $78 million. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the overall space program. And one thing nobody can deny came from the space program is satellite communication (without which there would be no GPS), and imagery, and I think those are pretty darned important to our military. IMHO staying ahead in the space race is vital to our national security.

[DJD]

Don it sounds like you work for a consulting engineering firm...so do I.

Haha I hear ya man...we are a systems integration firm and I run the Life Safety Division. I do alot of consulting with local engineers and the local AHJ. Been doing it for 22 years now. Wow time sure flies!

[Chubminnow]

Show me proof and explain to me how going to the moon gave us the things you mentioned. What I said was SPACE EXPLORATION is a waste of tax payers money and I stand behind that. You say it brought all this good stuff, explain in detail and make us believe it's so, because personally I think that's alot of bullcrap.

I've always wondered the same things....but asking someone from fishin.com about space exploration, well, I doubt if anyone here has any answers, cause if they did then they're probably rocket scientists...do we have any rocket scientists members? If so, speak up, we'd like for you to chime in on Mr. Hall's thread.

I certainly have no idea what the government is thinking on any program they are involved in...all I know is knowledge is power! Incidentally, not to change the subject, but I finally saw the good behind the cash for clunkers program, just think of how many Nobama bumper stickers we ain't gotta look at anymore.