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    one more thing........GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    walls old aau coach was/is some type of agent. so if he bought walls a big mac or a pair of socks, walls will have to pay that back. nothing to do with recruiting practices/methods by our clean handed coach. this is what uk has to look forward to every year. somebody always in the shadows trying to bring the program down. i guess thats what uk basketball gets for being one the best programs ever. man it feels good to say that. maybe one day little brother will get the chance. well, i wont hold my breath..GO BIG BLUE!!!!

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    If Pat Forde is such a great writer then why does he report BS untruths with agenda's against UK in other stories? It's a plain simple fact he is a UK Hater and always has been,this story is not some big breaking news,it's been known about for 5 or 6 months ,but Forde tries to make it look like some major cheating when it's a simple matter of who spent a couple $$ on what that happens all the time.At worst Wall will have to repay a few bucks,The guy lost his agent license pre-2008.He was an AAU coach,whoopee.
    When is Forde going to break the story on the car T-Will was driving around last year? Or how Pitino hired Marquis Teagues Coach?Stupid Louisville fans have been shown how Pitino is a Cheater but refuse to get it in their head.
    An Abortion a Day Keeps the Child Support Away!!!!!

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    These eligibility issues have nothing to do with Cal. They even go back to when Gillispie was the coach here. He was recruiting Wall as well. In fact, I'd say just about EVERYONE was recruiting Wall. I guess they're all cheaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    These eligibility issues have nothing to do with Cal. They even go back to when Gillispie was the coach here. He was recruiting Wall as well. In fact, I'd say just about EVERYONE was recruiting Wall. I guess they're all cheaters.
    Yeah but some cheat on their wifes more which is ok cause it's not against the law.... Sorry Ricky P. bout that right there, the devil made me do it.

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    Well as expected the hate and mud must fly. Brian, great post, insightful without the classic Pitino ***** to comments. I said in the beginning that I was not liking this and I'm not. I personally think bringing Calipari into the Kentucky camp somehow cheapened a long and storied history.

    Comparing Calipari with Pitino is shallow and holds no merit it also doesn't diminsh the fact that the guy brings contraversy litterally EVERYWHERE he goes. I wish Ky the best I think they are in for alot of issues with this guy I really do.

    Know1 the kid ended up at Ky that's why Calipari will be looked at under the scope on this, it would have happened whomever was the coach. However with his sparkling reputation it will be looked at even harder.

    Oh and by the way Pat Forde is an ass, he has wrote MORE bad press about Louisville then he ever has about Kentucky so please don't give me that he loves Louisville and hates UK stuff cause that's just a load of bull. Most and I mean most all UoL fans hate Forde with the burning passion of ten thousand suns.

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    Comparing Calipari to Pitino?

    Funny but wasn't the Derrick Caracter story the same as Wall?

    Deener was pointing out how Caracter had esentially the exact same issues when he arrived on campus. Said he had to pay back some money, sit out 3 games, and all was good. He kept talking about how if that was a non-issue, then there is no reason to blow this up unless more facts come out.

    In other words - When UL was in the exact same position with Caracter, it was a simple fix. Now when UK is in the same boat, UL's PR rep (4d) makes it national news and Wall should be declared inelligible, Calipari should be banned from the sport, and UK should suffer the death penalty.

    If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.

    Funny but Calipari never did any of this

    1977 N.C.A.A. report on sanctions against Hawaii that implicated Pitino in 8 of the 64 violations that led to the university being placed on two years' probation.

    The violations involving Pitino included providing round-trip air fare for a player between New York and Honolulu, arranging for student-athletes to receive used cars for season tickets, and handing out coupons to players for free food at McDonald's.

    He was also cited, along with the head coach, Bruce O'Neil, for providing misinformation to the N.C.A.A. and University of Hawaii officials.

    The N.C.A.A. committee on infractions recommended in 1977 that Pitino and O'Neil be disassociated from Hawaii athletics.

    I also find this Pitino Quote Hilarious
    "Pitino reiterated his point that his family would be the overridding consideration in his decision.

    ''The most important things in my life are my three young boys and my wonderful wife,'' he said, ''and I'm trying to make a situation where they have roots. Wherever I'm going, someday, I want to stay for a long, long period of time, because I've moved around quite a bit, and I'm tired of moving. I want my children to go through high school with their friends, grammar r school with their friends and have a good, stable life"
    Wonder if Karen Sypher knew this?
    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/24/sp...fractions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyfanatic View Post
    If Pat Forde is such a great writer then why does he report BS untruths with agenda's against UK in other stories? It's a plain simple fact he is a UK Hater and always has been,this story is not some big breaking news,it's been known about for 5 or 6 months ,but Forde tries to make it look like some major cheating when it's a simple matter of who spent a couple $$ on what that happens all the time.At worst Wall will have to repay a few bucks,The guy lost his agent license pre-2008.He was an AAU coach,whoopee.
    When is Forde going to break the story on the car T-Will was driving around last year? Or how Pitino hired Marquis Teagues Coach?Stupid Louisville fans have been shown how Pitino is a Cheater but refuse to get it in their head.
    An Abortion a Day Keeps the Child Support Away!!!!!

    T-Will was driving a car he bought and paid for and it is perfectly legal. Wall, Cuzzins and Patterson may all be doing the same shortly. You can secure a loan based on your income potential. I know Griffith did it, they borrow the money before going to the NBA and repay the loan when they are drafted, or when they sign with an agent. How do you think LeBron's mom bought him Hummer for his 18th birthday?

    If Pitino was such a cheater how come his Final Four banners are still hanging?

    I will get back with you shortly on the hiring of the coach from Indy, because your statement is misleading. Oh btw, that is perfectly legal to hire a high school coach, it happens all the time, even your beloved Cats have done it. How long did Dennis Johnson's dad stay on the football coaching staff once his son was gone?

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    They hired him in the basketball offices and he is not an atcual assistant coach. Also, at Teagues high school he was an assistant and wanting to get involved in college coaching so most likely he will be working in video, breaking down tapes and getting them ready for the coaching staff to watch. Teague has still not officilally comitted.

    BTW, has coach Cal ever done this? Does the name Milt Wagner ring a bell? If I am not mistaken Milt had a son that was the number one recruit in his class. Where did young Mr. Wagner go to school?

    Is it slimy to use a private jet to go hang out and watch high school games and talk to kids, and basically recruit them, when you are getting ready to take a coaching job, but are not officially a coach just yet?

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    http://community.foxsports.com/goodm...ibility_issue_

    REPORT: KENTUCKY'S HIGHLY TOUTED FRESHMAN DEALING WITH ELIGIBILITY ISSUE
    Thursday, October 22, 2009, 08:42 PM EST [General]


    Kentucky’s talented freshman point guard John Wall, the front-runner to become the top overall pick in this June’s NBA Draft, is dealing with eligibility issues due to his relationship with his AAU coach.

    Brian Clifton, who coached him with the D-One Sports team, is a former certified agent.

    ESPN.com’s Pat Forde and Dana O’Neil first reported the story on Thursday night after speaking with SEC commissioner Mike Slive.

    ``Those are amateur issues that arose prior to their coming to our schools,” Slive said. ``Those are strictly amateurism issues. As we told our people, somebody needs to determine if they are eligible. It’s not relative to you, it’s relative to them.”

    Sources close to the situation have told FOXSports.com that Wall will likely be cleared prior to Kentucky’s season-opener – which is on Nov. 13 against Morehead State at Rupp Arena.


    Bottom line is this whole "Breaking" story has been known since every school was recruiting Wall,Slime Ball Pat Forde took his agenda and made a mountain out of a speck of dust.
    Wonder if it has any connection to him and Pitino writing a book together? I also wonder if Forde ever bumps his head on Pitino's desk when climbing out from underneath it?

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    I don't think it's shallow comparing Pitino and Calipari. Pitino's issues more recently have been personal life issues, but my guess is if you'd cheat on your wife you'd probably do a "little extra" to get that 5 star recruit. I don't think either program is all that clean but the ole' saying goes "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'". You can't win today by dotting all the i's and crossing all the t's. I find it very comparable to the steroid situation in baseball. This kind of stuff happens every day at every major program - the only problem is now in the technology age you can't get away with it any more. Too many people want to be the one to break the "big news". I almost wish they could get away with it like they used to...........

    I the fan just want to see some good quality basketball games this year.........

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    I'm not a Pitino fan club member, I respect what he does and he is **** good at it but he is a slick willy slime ball. No need to get upset because it's just my opinion but the guy is like a politician. Power, money. lies, women and a HUGE ego.

    It is very funny how UK has been an easy target for jokes (even by me) with their recent coaches but as soon as they get a big name coach people (media) are looking to tear him down even when he hasn't done anything wrong.

    Just consider the media source and the motive and then look at the story and it reads as self serving for P.F.....Heck with all this lets see them play ball!

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