If a man wants to try the F-n-F let him...I'm stubborn...I have caught fish on the fly in Oct at Cland 2yrs ago......some Ky's. But I'd rather waste time when it was warmer practicing my casting, looking for some good walls, eliminating spots, ect,ect...Then when the water temps get ready for the good fishing I will have more quailty time to fish rather going at it rusty. We all can read, we know the right time, the right temp. But it's called fishin.....