Quote Originally Posted by patrick_campbell17 View Post
let me preface by saying i am not trying to belittle the ft hood murders. this was a terrible event, and my heart goes out to the families, and armed services everywhere.

however, saying muslims are responsible for all the mass killings going on is the epitome of stereotyping. first of all, nobody knows the true motive for the ft hood killings, other than the guy was muslim. so if you truely want to dissect these murders and the motives for them, lets do it.

if the major WAS linked to a terrorist organization, dont you think his high rank could have been put to much bigger use? second, if he was truely planning to exact some sort of personal agenda, dont you think he could have planned a much greater attack killing hundreds? this is most likely a guy who decided to serve his country and suffered from a severe internal dilema of service to his country vs. the stereotyping of his people. this in combination with any PTSD or similar disorders could easily account for a severe mental disorder with violent intentions.

so should we ban muslims from our armed forces? well what we hear from our media is how violent muslims are. these reports are based upon the accounts of radical extremists. we never hear about the millions of average people who just so happen to be muslim. they engage in no more, if not less, violent activity than your average american(which just so happens to be one of the most violent "civilized" populations in the world).

remember timothy mcveigh? he was irish catholic, and supposedly exacting revenge for waco, an extremist christian group. he was also in the military. what about the IRA, they're not muslim either. you might also look at the ETA in spain. but what do i know about this stuff?

there is also a little thing called seperation of church and state. this encompasses our head of state and military. what does it matter what religion someone is? THEY ALL have extremist groups, and THEY ALL do rotten stuff, the only difference is the name behind these organization.

i was always told never judge someone until you walk a mile in there shoes.
READ THIS and maybe you can make some corrections in your post.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115218


We are not talking about religious persecution here, however, it is always convenient to throw the "separation of church and state" balony out when you don't know what you're talking about. How do you separate church and state when The Constitution was founded on religious freedom? It did not say freedom FROM religion; it said freedom OF religion."

I'm sure you impressed yourself with your post, however, you misdiagnosed Hasan as having PTSD and calling it a "severe mental disorder." In one out of ten Americans, who have had a traumatic event, it causes a cascade of psychological and biological changes known as PTSD. It can be something like car and airplane accidents, sexual assaults & domestic violence, natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes & tornadoes, and can affect multiple people simultaneously. War trauma or injuries can also cause PTSD. Women are four times more likely than men to develop PTSD. Simply put, PTSD is a state in which "you can't stop remembering the event." I won't go into explaining the recall time frame and constants of it. I believe you need a few more whiskers on your chin and a lot more education before you start practicing psychology.

I have suffered from PTSD because of four traumatic events within a short time frame. I am not remotely mentally ill and definitely not "severely mentally ill." Guess who is a Psychologist and recognized that I had PTSD? It wasn't another doctor.

A person suffering from PTSD is treated by a Psychologist or Psychiatrist. Wasn't Hasan a psychologist? Would he not be the first to recognize that he suffered from PTSD and also know how to treat himself? Certainly being of Muslim faith combined with being deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan did not cause PTSD and make him go on a murdering spree. Remember WHO he was killing; soldiers returning from the war. Nobody forced him to join the military, he volunteered, and I believe it was with the full intention of killing as many Americans as possible. This is based on statements he made to known Radical Muslims. It had nothing to do with religious persecution because that did not happened. He was evil to the core from the time he was a teenager.