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    Don I agree with 100% on your point about why aren't the good religious Muslim leaders standing up and denounceing what this man did? When Sept 11th, 2001 occured many prominant Muslim leaders voiced their opposition to BinLaden and his radicals and I thought that was a good thing to do. But they should not have stopped UNLESS they have changed their minds. For all the weaker minds like this shrink soldier and other Muslims in service, those Muslim leaders need to denounce the terrorists and promote peace and promote the great country they live in. THey need to stand up as a group and now is the a great opportunity to do so!!

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    I HAVE A QUESTION, IF ISLAM IS FOR PEACE WHY DO ARE THEY ALWAYS BLOWING UP THINGS AND KILLING PEOPLE?

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    Patrick I didn't say they did all the killings, in fact I made sure I didn't word it that way, reread my original post. I was taught by my parents that all people are the same and should be treated with respect if they deserve it. I do my best to live my life that way.

    However I do not trust the Muslim religion, for me it stands for Hate. If you don't agree with what they say you are a Infidel and should die. After 911 I watched countries that were suppose to be our Allies stay silent. In fact Saudi Arabia didn't have the Nads to say one sorry thing about it one way or another. For me that means they secretely Condone it.
    The Palestinians danced in the streets burning our Flags??
    I'm like Don, this political correct crap needs to get sidelined. In my Mother and Fathers day, the WWII generation, which by the way was the greatest generation of Americans to ever breath, not debatable, just fact this type of garbage would not have been tolerated. I personally feel it's time for the law abiding, God fearing true blue American citizens to take back this country from the grasps of these liberal weiner nutjobs.

    Place the father back in the home with the dicipline he provides, and don't second guess him unless he's over the line.
    Put Corporal punishment back in the schools and tell the parents if they don't like find another school.
    Put God Almighty and the Ten Commandments back in the schools and make kids feel like it's a privledge to pray for a better tomorrow not shun and hide.
    Make Henaous crimes punished with Death and carry it out without 50 appeals.

    I'm sorry I don't trust Muslims and I may never be able to. That doesn't make me a racial bigget, it just makes causiously intelligent in my eyes.
    Sorry for the rant.

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    just so you know, i am not a liberal, if anything i believe more-so in the conservative side. i believe very strongly in the constitution, and i love this country. i love having the freedom to be able to speak out against social problems, like violence. my biggest love of all though, which is why i have chosen my life's path, is standing up for those who cannot, and protecting those who are defenseless. i have and always will be the one who stands up against wrongs in this country that i love so dearly.

    maybe i did misunderstand this, and you are entitled to your own opinion. issues like this really get under my skin, and i usually try and stay out of them, i see this as a serious social problem due to the fact that some people take it too far(not directed at anyone, just saying).

    and as far as mistrust, that is your right. the only reason i even chimed in, is because there are plenty of good, allah fearing people out there, i know because i have met them. and there are plenty of bad ones as well, i have met them too.

    the one thing i wanted to get across is that, there are good and bad of all people.
    Last edited by patrick_campbell17; 11-10-2009 at 01:36 PM. Reason: retraction

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    Do I feel they are all bad........Of course I don't I've tried my best to convey that. I also feel you are probably a fine young fellow that believes what he's saying and has the guts to say it, so good for you.

    What I said was I don't trust them, that's my right. If you walked into a real dark alley at night and ran across a group of crackheads asking you for a ride to the store would you do it?? Hopefully you wouldn't, but by your logic you might.
    They are putting the DC sniper to death today or tonight, good riddens, take wild guess what religion he practiced.

    In closing I do not think ALL muslims are violent murdering SOB's, but the lawabiding ones sure seem awfully quiet when something like this happens. Do you really know what's in their heart....................................I don't either, thus the cautious unrest towards them.

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    Quote Originally Posted by patrick_campbell17 View Post
    just so you know, i am not a liberal, if anything i believe more-so in the conservative side. i believe very strongly in the constitution, and i love this country. i love having the freedom to be able to speak out against social problems, like violence. my biggest love of all though, which is why i have chosen my life's path, is standing up for those who cannot, and protecting those who are defenseless. i have and always will be the one who stands up against wrongs in this country that i love so dearly.

    maybe i did misunderstand this, and you are entitled to your own opinion. issues like this really get under my skin, and i usually try and stay out of them, i see this as a serious social problem due to the fact that some people take it too far(not directed at anyone, just saying).

    and as far as mistrust, that is your right. the only reason i even chimed in, is because there are plenty of good, allah fearing people out there, i know because i have met them. and there are plenty of bad ones as well, i have met them too.

    the one thing i wanted to get across is that, there are good and bad of all people.
    "I love being able to speak out against social problems like violence. My biggest love of all though, which is why I have chosen my life's path, is standing up for those who cannot, and protecting those who are defenseless."

    It's easy to stand around and run your mouth; what are you DOING? When did you see the sick and comfort him; the hungry and feed him; the naked and clothe him; the abused child and rescue him; the homeless and shelter him or give him a blanket? I'm talking about needy people here in America. Talk is cheap and worthless and there is plenty to go around.

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    If enough cowards from this country would sign up we wouldnt need to rely on a muslim to take your place! I served, what say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippedcork View Post
    If enough cowards from this country would sign up we wouldnt need to rely on a muslim to take your place! I served, what say you?
    I didn't serve but would have without hesitation if called upon, even to this day even though I'm too old and they wouldn't take me. Almost joined the Corp out of High School but chased a girl To Michigan, she unfortunately was all I could think about at the time, litterally, lol. However my family has a long list of men who did.

    Father WWII Fighting Sea Bee in the South Pacific Theater
    Uncle also Navy WWII European theater
    First Cousin, lifer in the Air Force, has almost 26 years in. Trains people how to fly serveilance Drones.
    Another cousin retired from the USMC after 20 years. Vietnam veteran
    Another cousin lifer in the Army.
    Oldest brother turned down for the Vietnam War because of flat feet, what a joke he could out run a deer at the time. He tried three times to go because some of his buddies had to and they wouldn't let him in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    I didn't serve but would have without hesitation if called upon, even to this day even though I'm too old and they wouldn't take me. Almost joined the Corp out of High School but chased a girl To Michigan, she unfortunately was all I could think about at the time, litterally, lol. However my family has a long list of men who did.

    Father WWII Fighting Sea Bee in the South Pacific Theater
    Uncle also Navy WWII European theater
    First Cousin, lifer in the Air Force, has almost 26 years in. Trains people how to fly serveilance Drones.
    Another cousin retired from the USMC after 20 years. Vietnam veteran
    Another cousin lifer in the Army.
    Oldest brother turned down for the Vietnam War because of flat feet, what a joke he could out run a deer at the time. He tried three times to go because some of his buddies had to and they wouldn't let him in.
    Hey Mark, I should have never used the word coward! Sounds like you got some good blood in ya.

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    Oldest brother: 26 years U.S. Army Green Beret (deceased...agent orange)
    Older brother: 26 years U.S. Air Force Special Ops...Blackbirds
    Younger brother: 4 years Navy...nuclear subs
    Me: 12 years USMC infantry and aviation 14 years U.S. Army infantry

    Dad: Did not serve
    Mother: Did not serve

    Both my parents did not serve...but they could have kicked your ass any day of the week and twice on Sunday without blinking an eye and would have if they thought you deserved it.

    We all serve in our own way to make this country great.

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStewart View Post
    Oldest brother: 26 years U.S. Army Green Beret (deceased...agent orange)
    Older brother: 26 years U.S. Air Force Special Ops...Blackbirds
    Younger brother: 4 years Navy...nuclear subs
    Me: 12 years USMC infantry and aviation 14 years U.S. Army infantry

    Dad: Did not serve
    Mother: Did not serve

    Both my parents did not serve...but they could have kicked your ass any day of the week and twice on Sunday without blinking an eye and would have if they thought you deserved it.

    We all serve in our own way to make this country great.

    Bam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Muslims in the US military

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStewart View Post
    Oldest brother: 26 years U.S. Army Green Beret (deceased...agent orange)
    Older brother: 26 years U.S. Air Force Special Ops...Blackbirds
    Younger brother: 4 years Navy...nuclear subs
    Me: 12 years USMC infantry and aviation 14 years U.S. Army infantry

    Dad: Did not serve
    Mother: Did not serve

    Both my parents did not serve...but they could have kicked your ass any day of the week and twice on Sunday without blinking an eye and would have if they thought you deserved it.

    We all serve in our own way to make this country great.
    I was just thinking, if everyone joins the military, who will stay home and defend the United States? Illegal aliens? Somebody has to guard the "hen house."

    That guy gets his mouth to running before he puts his brain into gear.

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