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    PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Hey Folks,

    OK, I said I would not continue to fight the anti-muslim sterotyping going on. I have tried to only asked for everyone to keep an open mind.

    I have been thinking, maybe I am not keeping one myself, so I am asking everyone's help.

    How do we target Muslims? Do we care if they are innocent? Do we just go after the ones we catch going to Mosques? What do we do with them once we catch them?

    Really, I am serious... many have called for some anti-Muslim actions, and I am not sure how you would have them work. Can you help me understand your position? Explain to me what you would do, how you would do it, and if the person is completely innocent, then what?

    Thank you for taking my request seriously,

    HDF

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Had another thought that I wanted to add, because I just don't understand how this will work. OK, we target all muslims, innocent and guilty. What about their young children? Toddlers, infants, teenagers? How do we handle them? And don't we then risk raising a whole new generation of people who will grow up to hate America because we confined their innocent parents?

    Really, I am trying to get my head around this.... help me understand.

    HDF

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HiDefFisherman View Post
    Hey Folks,

    OK, I said I would not continue to fight the anti-muslim sterotyping going on. I have tried to only asked for everyone to keep an open mind.

    I have been thinking, maybe I am not keeping one myself, so I am asking everyone's help.

    How do we target Muslims? Do we care if they are innocent? Do we just go after the ones we catch going to Mosques? What do we do with them once we catch them?

    Really, I am serious... many have called for some anti-Muslim actions, and I am not sure how you would have them work. Can you help me understand your position? Explain to me what you would do, how you would do it, and if the person is completely innocent, then what?

    Thank you for taking my request seriously,

    HDF
    Unless "we" are the Federal Marshalls, FBI, CIA, etc.,"we" don't target them; that is not our job. Leave the Muslims alone and report suspicious activities to the proper authorities. Believe me, Muslim go places and do things beside go to the mosques and say prayers.

    All this country needs is a bunch of redneck, smartass vigilantes running around taking the law into their own hands. Their chewing tobacco wads, shot from a slingshot, won't stand up against another 9-11 or carloads of explosives.

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Right on Bug, excellent answer.

    Grumpy

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Right on Bug, excellent answer.

    Grumpy

    Welcome back Grumpy... take it your computer is back up and running?

    You should probably read back through the previous threads and see where I tried to stop the stero-typing of the Muslims, but was pretty much alone, until HurricaneBob joined. I have to say, he is much more elequant than I with his words. Anyway, I decided to take a different tact. I tried to get people to open their minds... seemed they were closed permenantly, so I decided to give those a chance to convince me they were right.

    Just to be clear, I actually agree with 'Bug about vigilantes, something you just did too. I find that interesting, considering you are the one who posted about a woman shooting a purse theif in the back, weren't you? You know, the thread about "gun control"? Maybe you are just coming around!!!

    HDF

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HiDefFisherman View Post
    Welcome back Grumpy... take it your computer is back up and running?

    You should probably read back through the previous threads and see where I tried to stop the stero-typing of the Muslims, but was pretty much alone, until HurricaneBob joined. I have to say, he is much more elequant than I with his words. Anyway, I decided to take a different tact. I tried to get people to open their minds... seemed they were closed permenantly, so I decided to give those a chance to convince me they were right.

    Just to be clear, I actually agree with 'Bug about vigilantes, something you just did too. I find that interesting, considering you are the one who posted about a woman shooting a purse theif in the back, weren't you? You know, the thread about "gun control"? Maybe you are just coming around!!!

    HDF
    R U serious? Open our minds? Wow! Open the mind to the part that talks of arrogance and ponder that for awhile. Jeez....us dumby folks justs cant's keeeps up wiz yous.

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    You know, Hideffishperson, obviously you are being incredably scarcastic here recently and dont like the conversations we have been having regarding terrorism. But the only input I see from you in running down your fellow countrymen/women to support muslims. Not one word on this board has ever said anything negative about the religious, hard working Muslims that live in the States and are not associated with the radical terrorists. But you seem to assume that is is being discussed. It has only been the concern of these posters of the radical element of Muslims and how they need to be identified and watched by the authorities of your country. No body has even suggested anything else. But you and Corkscrew come here and insult your fellow countrymen by calling them "cowards" so you can protect muslims. Guess what? Muslims dont want or need you to stick up for them but your fellow countrymen would certainly appreciate your support of them. If you were Canadian and insulted me like you do to the good folks of this board I would have kicked your can from here to Afganastan. But you are lucky you are not. Now you can go ahead and report me cuz that is what people like you do. But please knock off the sarcasm against the good people of this board cuz I like them very much. Just my 2 cents.
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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gills View Post
    You know, Hideffishperson, obviously you are being incredably scarcastic here recently and dont like the conversations we have been having regarding terrorism. But the only input I see from you in running down your fellow countrymen/women to support muslims. Not one word on this board has ever said anything negative about the religious, hard working Muslims that live in the States and are not associated with the radical terrorists. But you seem to assume that is is being discussed. It has only been the concern of these posters of the radical element of Muslims and how they need to be identified and watched by the authorities of your country. No body has even suggested anything else. But you and Corkscrew come here and insult your fellow countrymen by calling them "cowards" so you can protect muslims. Guess what? Muslims dont want or need you to stick up for them but your fellow countrymen would certainly appreciate your support of them. If you were Canadian and insulted me like you do to the good folks of this board I would have kicked your can from here to Afganastan. But you are lucky you are not. Now you can go ahead and report me cuz that is what people like you do. But please knock off the sarcasm against the good people of this board cuz I like them very much. Just my 2 cents.
    Hey! Easy with the name calling. Show me one post I made sticking up for any muslim and Ill eat brussel sprouts. Ill also have you know I served in the United States Military so I think I know a thing or 2 about my countrymen! I know youre just venting but I doubt you could kick your own can anywhere.

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Corkscrew, i only made reference to you in the name calling when you called people here "cowards". This post was mainly directed at Hideffishman. Is that you? No so just move along. You would be surprised at whose can I can kick. I did no name calling. Thats your bag. Not mine. I am just calling it like I em. Just my opinion and my feelings on this subject. Gee now you are saying I dont have a right to say whats on my mind. hmmm, now doesnt sound right. You and hidef do it here lately all the time. Turnabout is fair play in my book. Besides I am not on a rant. You love to assume and emblesh what we say on this board to fit your own agenda. But thats not me. Have a nice day.

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gills View Post
    Corkscrew, i only made reference to you in the name calling when you called people here "cowards". This post was mainly directed at Hideffishman. Is that you? No so just move along. You would be surprised at whose can I can kick. I did no name calling. Thats your bag. Not mine. I am just calling it like I em. Just my opinion and my feelings on this subject. Gee now you are saying I dont have a right to say whats on my mind. hmmm, now doesnt sound right. You and hidef do it here lately all the time. Turnabout is fair play in my book. Besides I am not on a rant. You love to assume and emblesh what we say on this board to fit your own agenda. But thats not me. Have a nice day.
    You basicall called me a muslim protector and I challenged you to show me 1 post I made to support your claim. Well wheres it at? A coward is a pretty strong word which I should not have used. When you referred to me I assumed everything you said was meant toward me. Once again, I challenge you to quote a post anywhere I said you cant say whats on your mind or express your opinion. Geez, you must be a woman cause I feel like im talking to my wife.

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    Re: PLEASE, Help me open my mind!!!

    Nice and slow now. Reread the first 2 lines of the passage you quoted me. I only referred to you and the name calling of coward. The post was directed at the other one. I already said this to you and you used it in your quote. Is it not sinking in or what? You can try to bait me all you want but you will not instigate a fight out of me. I said my peace and thats that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gills View Post
    Nice and slow now. Reread the first 2 lines of the passage you quoted me. I only referred to you and the name calling of coward. The post was directed at the other one. I already said this to you and you used it in your quote. Is it not sinking in or what? You can try to bait me all you want but you will not instigate a fight out of me. I said my peace and thats that.
    You may as well be talking to a fence post; he doesn't "get it." Women make him nervous and give him an inferiority complex. I wonder if his head was damaged when his wife spanked him on the BUTT. Maybe you should start talking up his "tailpipe." An enema might even open up his ears. lol

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