Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
Grumpy, No offense, but I can also pull out many quotes from the Old Testiment that are similar. Everything from someone being stoned to death because he was collecting firewood on a Sunday to whole towns being wiped out (men, women, and childern) because God told the Isralites to do so. One can look at how Christians lead peaceful lives and do not agree with the killing of others. I think you'll find the same for the majority of Muslims.

"Andrew, maybe I missed something but I don't recall that the Columbine shooters were either "nut jobs" or associated with an organized religious terrorist organization. Same with VA Tech."

You are correct Bug. A bad choice of words on my part. My point was that we do not know for sure yet if the Fort Hood attack was solely a terrorist attack or that of a loaner with a grudge acting out violently like other such attacks. It may also be the case that in the Fort Hood case it is a mix of both. I would like to see all of the evidence on this before making a comment.

I also agree with you that it is most definitely a responsibility of any administration to keep Americans safe from attacks both from abroad and home. Like RoadToad, I gotta believe the FBI and CIA are taking a good look at these camps and keeping quiet until they find some actionable intelligence. RoadToad makes some good points concerning the camps and says it better than I could.

Andrew
I believe, according to news reports, that the FBI seized Hasan's (the Ft Hood terrorist) computers and found that he was regularly sending emails to Pakistan, to the same terrorist leader who is directing the terrorist training camps in the United States. "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck........."

Moreover, when Hasan's trial is held in civil court instead of military court, we all may find out to what extent the the terrorists are willing to go. The same can be said of the Guantanamo prisoners when they are transferred to US prisons and tried in civil court. With those prisoners will come a load of problems.