Ain't it a shame the things a company does to its customers...they are constantly changing their products and its usually so they can sell them for a higher price... I always had good experiences with abu until last year I bought a 4600 c4...what was wrong with the 4500c?....was a great little reel....the 4600c4 is a great reel ....most of the time....the other 10% of the time it just locks up tight. have to push the release bar really hard to get it to work again...I'm beginning to think your best bet is to buy cheap equipment and if it screws up, toss it in the trash can....warantees are ok but if you have to wait months to get them fixed of replaced they aren't worth the trouble either....broke a shimano rod this spring...took me 4 months to get it replaced.