Never! But anyone who is thinking about sharing a back seat the next few days, I have to arrange my sock drawer, and iron my underwear. Sorry.But it was pleasant fishing with Gary, was a little worried when I tangled his line before he made his first cast. His patience should have been rewarded with a trophy.Actually the weather wasn't that bad, but I'm not sorry we called it quits when we did.That long dreaded walk up that ramp, was as bad as I expected it to be,that was the only low spot for me. thanks for sharing the ride.