Louisville *****

[Tim_T]

I happen to love the people in this state and it pisses me off to have TimT call UK racist and cheaters,blah,blah.

So are you telling me that the UK basketball program DOES NOT HAVE A HISTORY OF RACISM AND CHEATING? Despite the fact that it is common knowledge?

And as you stated, you did invite me hunting on your farm. You even gave me directions and sent me an arial photo. I was sorry I could not get there to hunt. I even sent an e-mail to Mhall stating as much. I still appreciate the offer and wish I could have made it down there.

[kyfanatic]

So are you telling me that the UK basketball program DOES NOT HAVE A HISTORY OF RACISM AND CHEATING? Despite the fact that it is common knowledge?

And as you stated, you did invite me hunting on your farm. You even gave me directions and sent me an arial photo. I was sorry I could not get there to hunt. I even sent an e-mail to Mhall stating as much. I still appreciate the offer and wish I could have made it down there.

There was no more racism at UK then there was at UL,UL recruited a Black Player 4 years ahead of UK,UK that was a member of the SEC where it was threatened to revoke their charter if they played Blacks,and where it was unsafe to travel with a Black player in the South during those times,as far as Adolph Rupp is concerned,there is more evidence that suggests he was not racist than all the gossip you can throw up saying he was.Did you personally know the man? I personally know Joe B. Hall and he says that Rupp was not a racist.Rupp coached Black players on his High School team in Illinois in the 1920's,I'd say that was ahead of his time. I promise I can dig up as many things that show UL was as racist as UK was during that time period,in fact I can show where people in Louisville committed racial violence towards blacks in 1975 when bussing started.
So,about cheating,in the early 50's gambling syndicates from New York paid players from over 50 NCAA teams to shave points and sway game outcomes,3 UK players were involved,not the atheletic dept,not Adolph Rupp,how can you possibly know about this to control it? Kentucky won alot of games that year so it wasn't like they threw a bunch of games. Did you know Frank Maguire at North Carolina had players involved too? The NCAA singled Kentucky out because it was the flagship program at the time,the only other infractions involved Drunk Eddie Sutton who was summarily dismissed,no different than the infractions UL committed if you are honest.
I find it strange that you guys rant about bigotry,but show the same behavior toward fellow citizens of your state.You do realize Louisville is in Kentucky don't you? Sometimes I wonder.

This is the last I will argue about any of your rants against UK,have fun.

[Tim_T]

There was no more racism at UK then there was at UL,UL recruited a Black Player 4 years ahead of UK,UK that was a member of the SEC where it was threatened to revoke their charter if they played Blacks,and where it was unsafe to travel with a Black player in the South during those times,as far as Adolph Rupp is concerned,there is more evidence that suggests he was not racist than all the gossip you can throw up saying he was.Did you personally know the man? I personally know Joe B. Hall and he says that Rupp was not a racist.

LOL Guess what, I know Joe B. as well. Been a guest on the show with he and Denny on a couple of occasions. Coach Hall is not going to tell you that coach Rupp was a racist, but here are some interesting tidbits:

He said, ‘You've got to beat those coons,’ He turned to (center)Thad Jaracz. 'You go after that big coon.' . . . He talked that way all the time. . . A chill went through me. I was standing in the back of the room, and I looked around at the players. They all kind of ducked their heads. They were embarrassed. This was clearly the type of thing that went over the line." Frank Deford, Sports Illustrated, reporting on Coach Adolph Rupp’s halftime exhortations in the UK Wildcat’s locker room.

"Harry, that son of a bitch is ordering me to get some niggers in here. What am I going to do ? He's the boss." Harry Lancaster, long-time assistant to Rupp, in his book Adolph Rupp As I Knew Him (Lexington Productions, 1979), quoting Rupp on Dr. John Oswald, UK President.

“Once, I was on a flight with Rupp and sat with him in the first-class section. He had about six Kentucky bourbons in less than an hour and was about halfway to the wind. I told him that I was an attorney who represented some basketball players. Now, I had never met the man, and the first significant thing he said to me was, ‘The trouble with the ABA is that there are too many nigger boys in it now.’ I sat there just stunned. That just killed my image of Adolph Rupp the great coach. Maybe it was because he had too much to drink, but even so...” - Loose Balls by Terry Pluto, Simon & Schuster, 1990, pg. 241.

This is the tip of the iceberg. I especially find the quote from Rupp's assistant interesting. Bottom line, Rupp was a racist and a bigot. Everybody in the country knows it, except UK fans.

[Tim_T]

the only other infractions involved Drunk Eddie Sutton who was summarily dismissed,no different than the infractions UL committed if you are honest.

Are you serious, the same thing? You must be joking, Louisville had minor violations and UK nearly got the death penalty for sending cash to players families, cheating on entrance exams (sounds familiar) and other events. Louisville didn't even get a post season ban! Hardly the same.

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