look at the quantums i just got the KVD pt tour edition at bps for $119.00 normaly 169.00 and the cool thing is i had a rod and reel that i used that i bought last july and traded it in at BPS no questions asked so i got the KVD pt tour edition and paired it with a BPS crankin stick and it cost me .12 cents after the trad in. i could not belive they did the trade in like that with no recipt. the only good thing they have done besides their spring sale. other then that everything is over priced.