Search Fishin.com

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 12 of 34

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Shepherdsville
    Posts
    5,596
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Another take from www.outdoorwire.com:


    Is Recreational Fishing Being Banned?
    Editor's Note: Over the past week, comments regarding the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force have kicked off a heated discussion regarding unjustified rumor-mongering and an unvarnished bias against the administration by the "right-wing media". Today, a response from the Recreational Fishing Alliance.

    A recent national opinion piece has ignited a firestorm concerning the efforts of the Obama Administration's Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force and its involvement in implementing a policy of "marine spatial planning" that could ultimately effect the management of and public access to the nation's natural public resources. The column comes three weeks after the closing of the public comment period by the Presidential task force and on the heels of the historic fishermen's rally at the Capitol on February 24 coordinated by the Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) and its allied groups.

    Recent press releases issued by some sportfishing industry and angling conservation groups have expressed dismay at the unwillingness of administrators to listen to their recommendations. None of this comes as a surprise to the RFA. More troubling is that some of these same insiders have shown a willingness under past administrations to accept use of executive privilege in managing coastal access while fruitlessly participating in the new administration's new bureaucratic task force process.

    "The goal of the key players in the process, specifically the Pew Environment Group and its minions, is to attempt to implement through Executive Order what they had failed to accomplish through the legislative process," said Jim Donofrio, RFA Executive Director. "We welcome those organizations who feel disenfranchised by the task force to join us in working to prevent what is the usurpation of the management of this nation's fisheries, oceans, coastal waters and the Great Lakes for ideological reasons," Donofrio said.

    The Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force led by the White House Council on Environmental Policy was established by President Obama on June 12, 2009. According to the Presidential memorandum, the task force was charged with developing a national policy for the protection, maintenance and restoration of U.S. oceans, coasts and the Great Lakes. "It will also recommend a framework for improved stewardship and effective coastal and marine special planning," the White House said in June.

    The same month the task force was established, Donofrio was invited to testify before congress in opposition to legislation sponsored by California Democrat Rep. Sam Farr (H.R. 21), a bill which would establish a new national policy for our oceans. In a release issued last fall, Donofrio said the RFA was unnerved by glaring similarities of the new report and Rep. Farr's H.R. 21, the Ocean Conservation, Education, and National Strategy for the 21st Century Act (aptly referred to as Oceans 21). "This appears to be an attempt by the Executive branch to circumvent the established legislative process and enact policy that failed as legislation 5 years in a row," Donofrio said, adding "RFA believes enacting laws through Executive order and proclamation sets a dangerous precedence."

    Oceans 21 has failed to gain Congressional support because of its ability to restrict access to public resources while creating a new bureaucratic hierarchy with unprecedented power to regulate fisheries and implement ocean zoning without oversight or public input. The RFA has been in the forefront of exposing Oceans 21 and is a leader in preventing its passage. On June 18, 2009, the RFA was the only national fishing organization that testified before Congress in opposition of the bill.

    "Recreational fishermen have been watching fisheries management in this country literally get hijacked by preservationists," Donofrio said this week in response to the national news headlines indicating the president was going to ban recreational fishing. "I don't think this president would consider banning recreational fishing outright, but it's clear to us that the Obama Administration would like to severely restrict recreational fishing." Donofrio said RFA and others are troubled by the number of staffers within the Administration who have direct ties to Pew.

    RFA said the good part about the recent headlines is that people are opening their eyes to the fact that "the fisheries management system is broken" and in need of repair. "Are we concerned about realities regarding the task force? Yes we are, and that's the hijacking of H.R. 21, a bill that would set up such an incredible bureaucratic infrastructure that Americans would indeed have a hard time finding fishing opportunities," Donofrio said.

    Records show that groups like Pew and the David & Lucille Packard Foundation have used funds to support implementation of marine protected areas, denying public access to large areas of coastal waters. "Years ago, Pew and Packard had a dream of creating blanket marine reserves across the country through the legislative process, but that quickly fell apart when Congress wouldn't support it so they moved into the states," Donofrio said. "True, they found certain governments like California very supportive of efforts to institute blanket closures, but they never gave up their goal of getting us all off the water by whatever means possible," he said. Donofrio explained that Pew-funded groups worked hard to push rigid "overfishing" language into the Magnuson Stevens Act during the 2006 reauthorization debate.

    "Essentially, Pew was able to create these de facto reserves which make fishing opportunities so incredibly hard. Take for example red snapper and other important snapper/grouper which are off limits to recreational anglers in the south Atlantic despite rebuilding progress," Donofrio said. "Pew's stacked the task force deck, and they've even got one of their Pew Fellowship award-winners as head of the fisheries service, it's certainly troubling."

    Dr, Jane Lubchenco, who the President appointed to run NOAA Fisheries in 2009, is also a past member of the Pew Oceans Commission, the steering committee of the Joint Oceans Commission Initiative, and a director of the Monterey Bay Aquarium, SeaWeb, and Environmental Defense all of which are Pew funding recipients. Dr. Lubchenco also serves as Trustee Emerita of the David and Lucile Packard Foundation.

    "Dr. Luchenco currently sits atop a growing number of appointees who are pushing an agenda of ocean zoning, catch shares and Draconian regulatory actions that are severely hindering our ability to fish with resulting negative impacts on the economy and significant job losses," said Donofrio who pointed out that it's been this apparent "takeover of fisheries management" which led to the fishermen's rally in Washington DC on February 24 which drew an estimated crowd of over 4,000 fishermen in support of the Flexibility in Rebuilding American Fisheries Act (H.R. 1585 and S. 1255).

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    11,442
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Looks like these folks think this is a problem and thats their business. Reading things like trying to circumvent the process or administration staff with too many ties to certain groups that they are trying to regulate or help disturbs me.

    But don't scream to loud at anything this administration does because your tagged a racist....typical crap from left wingers.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    .
    Posts
    1,738
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Personally, I really do not see anyway that any administration would try to ban fishing, especially now. Its a $80 billion+ industry, that provides jobs for many people. You really think that a politician would try to ban fishing and loose all of that tax revenue? Not going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    ...But don't scream to loud at anything this administration does because your tagged a racist....typical crap from left wingers.
    Can you show me a post on here where someone does that cause I don't recall seeing any.


    Andrew

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Shepherdsville
    Posts
    5,596
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Personally, I really do not see anyway that any administration would try to ban fishing, especially now. Its a $80 billion+ industry, that provides jobs for many people. You really think that a politician would try to ban fishing and loose all of that tax revenue? Not going to happen.



    Can you show me a post on here where someone does that cause I don't recall seeing any.


    Andrew
    Andrew, I believe it would be political suicide, but some of this makes me uneasy. Especially the no public comments issue.

    Also, I don't think Don (DJD) meant that would occur on this site, I think he meant in general.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    11,442
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Personally, I really do not see anyway that any administration would try to ban fishing, especially now. Its a $80 billion+ industry, that provides jobs for many people. You really think that a politician would try to ban fishing and loose all of that tax revenue? Not going to happen.



    Can you show me a post on here where someone does that cause I don't recall seeing any.


    Andrew
    LOL yeah I was referring to the potus admin not this site. I just get ticked off at how this admin seems to have played such a strong hand by using (yep I say using by design) a black man to do their bidding.

    Now when anyone does not agree with their policies the race card gets played. Happened on here many times and more then likely by the worlds biggest racists to begin with. Of course it happens on the national stage a well.

    Oh well hopefully we will vote this poison out before it kills whats left of what made this country strong.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    474
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    LOL yeah I was referring to the potus admin not this site. I just get ticked off at how this admin seems to have played such a strong hand by using (yep I say using by design) a black man to do their bidding.

    Now when anyone does not agree with their policies the race card gets played. Happened on here many times and more then likely by the worlds biggest racists to begin with. Of course it happens on the national stage a well.

    Oh well hopefully we will vote this poison out before it kills whats left of what made this country strong.
    UHUUM! By design. I thought the potus was a black man elected by the people. So you are saying not enough white people voted by design? You arent in the bottom of a jug of moonshine are you?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Shepherdsville
    Posts
    5,596
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    UHUUM! By design. I thought the potus was a black man elected by the people. So you are saying not enough white people voted by design? You arent in the bottom of a jug of moonshine are you?
    You just joined in Dec. You barely have any post. The most recent pople to visit your profile other than myself, are all poople who nobody on this board knows. That has troll written all over it. If I am wrong I am sorry, but it is hard to take you seriously.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    11,442
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    OK here is my theory...The Dem ticket was full of conflict with their process of who will lead their party, remember??? I thought Hillary was a better choice. (Sorry for the racist comment for not liking the black guy over the woman)

    The Delegates and Superdelegates chose Barry for the black vote (IMO)and they knew that by doing so they had a shield built up for playing the race card. It gave them more room to implement their wacky policies. After all if you don't like what this guy is doing then your a racist.

    The Dem party has played it, the media has, his honerable(cough cough) pastor has, his buddy L Farakkan and so on.

    White, Yellow, black and white people voted for him.....I don't remember disputing that??? Did I???

    Their campaign and plan was flawless. They used all forms of media and taught the GOP how to run a campaign so the next one will be a doozy. Print this thread and post it cause you watch how many times racism pops up in the next campaign. It will be all over the place and in my mind it's even more proof to what I'm saying......

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    .
    Posts
    1,738
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    ...The Delegates and Superdelegates chose Barry for the black vote (IMO)and they knew that by doing so they had a shield built up for playing the race card. It gave them more room to implement their wacky policies. After all if you don't like what this guy is doing then your a racist.......
    So Obama being on the ticket had nothing to do with him winning in the primaries

    Andrew

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    11,442
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Has everything to do with it his campaign was flawless. A true masterpiece...I HATED IT ALL THE WAY!

    He had so much face time that I thought he worked for the media....no wait they work for him, my bad. I get those two branches of gubment confused.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Louisville, KY
    Posts
    2,538
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Now when anyone does not agree with their policies the race card gets played. Happened on here many times and more then likely by the worlds biggest racists to begin with. Of course it happens on the national stage a well.
    When? Where? By whom? I'd really like to see a specific example of this happening "on the national stage," because I haven't seen it. Now, you and I most likely watch different news programs, visit different web sites, etc., so I am open to the possiblity that it really does happen, and I just don't see it, but I'd really like to see some specific examples of people being labeled as racist simply because they disagree with something President Obama says or does. Now, if you're talking about Al Sharpton or Louis Farakhan playing the race card, then yeah, I would have missed that, because I don't pay attention to a word they say in the first place.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    11,442
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Lefties poised to stop fishing/hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    When? Where? By whom? I'd really like to see a specific example of this happening "on the national stage," because I haven't seen it. Now, you and I most likely watch different news programs, visit different web sites, etc., so I am open to the possiblity that it really does happen, and I just don't see it, but I'd really like to see some specific examples of people being labeled as racist simply because they disagree with something President Obama says or does. Now, if you're talking about Al Sharpton or Louis Farakhan playing the race card, then yeah, I would have missed that, because I don't pay attention to a word they say in the first place.
    Man it's hard to imagine you have not seen any of this? I'll look for some but I have seen it too many times to even point one out. I'll get back with ya though........

Similar Threads

  1. YOU Lefties on the board RAILED against Bush and Big OIL???
    By GeoFisher in forum "Off Topic" Posts
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-14-2011, 07:34 AM
  2. Fishing and Hunting from boat
    By gocards40 in forum Kentucky Discussion Board
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-11-2011, 12:27 PM
  3. PETA trying to stop College bass fishing....
    By ryan_ekubass in forum Kentucky Discussion Board
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 04-29-2011, 08:35 PM
  4. FS: 14 ft Fishing/Hunting Boat
    By JUSTAFLUKE in forum Boats - Buy, Sell, Discuss
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-13-2008, 10:44 PM
  5. Hunting Legislation - Is fishing next?
    By fishbum in forum Ohio Discussion Board
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-02-2007, 05:40 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •