Still looking but went to Quest Outdoors and got to sit in a wilderness commander this the bomb!!!! I think that this very much like the native but closer to home. Little cheaper for the moment I have a 10% off unitl the end of the month. Chad keeling has been helping me and I have been trying to get him to start carrying more Fishing stuff for kayaks. But right his boss doesnt see the need for the stuff here. So if live you in the metro area and want this let them Know! He can also make arrangements to let you try out a demo they carry hobie, wilderness, dragger and some others.