I didn't make the first post to start a religious discussion but since it has deterriated into that, let me point out that I said "I don't believe it (the Bible) really says most of what other people tell me it says." From that I hope you can understand that I do not believe in Jesus as being anything other than a man. If Christians choose to believe that he rose from the dead, that is their right, but that doesn't mean that everyone else has to believe it, which I don't.

Grumpy