One thing also that should be noted here about Turner versus Wall. Wall is surrounded by future NBA players Turner doesn't have that luxury and has to do alot himself, that does make fro an adverse situation for him sometimes by trying t do too much.

That is Thad Matta's mule, and he gets to pull the plow alot and maybe too much sometimes.

BTW, Before Woody or somebody says it, I love Walls' game and I like him as a young man to. Very mature for his age, handles himself well with the media and doesn't showboat. He's not a punk, seems to be a real likable fella, and even has a cool little dance.