Hey Tim,,I was talking to John tonight and we was going to see if you wanted my back seat. But I got to dreaming and came up with. You know how we fish live shad weightless flippin them?....I`s catch so many that i`d get brave and get my ultralight out and start playing with them. Then all of a sudden I got this big brain fart! Hey why not put a shad on the end of the flyrod and flip them in there,,,man oh man,,,I`ve caught 4 lbers on them before,,,Tee hee,,,that be a blast! Think your froggie enought to try that?