Conservative vs Liberal

[RoadToad]

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed."
-Can't argue too much with this one. It's true that most if not all people that want all guns banned are on the left. But I would submit that most liberals don't really want "all guns outlawed."

"If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
lf a liberal doesn't like meat, he wants all meat products banned."
-This one has me scratching my head. Surely you're not saying all liberals are PETA members? I don't know who else "wants all meat products banned."

"If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect."
-Because what you call "legislated respect" is the only way for them to gain the same civil rights the rest of us Americans enjoy! They're not asking for "special rights," just to be treated like the rest of us.

"If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him."
-I would rephrase this to "Conservative politicians want down-and-out people to fend for themselves or starve, whereas liberals are willing to offer them some help."

"If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want to silence those they don't like, or with whom they disagree."
-I don't know how you can post this with a straight face, especially when you're talking about "talk show hosts" in particular. The only talk about "silencing" talk show hosts that I recall was about Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell, because of them being lesbian, and it sure as hell wasn't coming from the left!

"If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
If a liberal is a non-believer he wants any mention of religion silenced."
-Not too far off the mark. I do wish more people would realize that we can keep church and state separate without removing every reference to religion.

"If a conservative needs health insurance he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it."
-Now THIS lie I do find just a little offensive. When I didn't have health insurance, I paid for what little medical care I received out of my own pocket. Mostly, I just did without. Then I went and did what you say only conservatives do; I went and got a job that provided it.

"A conservative will read this and have a good laugh.
A liberal will read this and be offended."

I guess the point of the post was to be entertaining, not to be truthful. ROFLMAO! THERE! I'm a conservative!

[Devils Horse]

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed."
-Can't argue too much with this one. It's true that most if not all people that want all guns banned are on the left. But I would submit that most liberals don't really want "all guns outlawed."

-- Hard to argue with the truth. but nice try.

"If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect."
-Because what you call "legislated respect" is the only way for them to gain the same civil rights the rest of us Americans enjoy! They're not asking for "special rights," just to be treated like the rest of us.

--Exactly which civil rights are homosexuals deprived of? How are they treated differently than the rest of us?

"If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him."
-I would rephrase this to "Conservative politicians want down-and-out people to fend for themselves or starve, whereas liberals are willing to offer them some help."

--Liberal talking points are just plain wrong here. Conservatives are far more generous than liberals. Next time you're down and out, instead of approaching a Christian church which is no doubt infested with hard hearted conservatives, give one of the liberal satanist outfits a buzz. Let me know how that works out for you.

"If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want to silence those they don't like, or with whom they disagree."
-I don't know how you can post this with a straight face, especially when you're talking about "talk show hosts" in particular. The only talk about "silencing" talk show hosts that I recall was about Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell, because of them being lesbian, and it sure as hell wasn't coming from the left!

-- As evidenced by the rest of your replies to this thread, your recall is poor. The reason Rosie and Ellen aren't on the air is bad ratings...nobody watched. Rosie's mean spirited big mouth got her canned not her sexual orientation. That and the fact that she'd make you throw up quicker than sticking a finger down your throat.

"If a conservative needs health insurance he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it."
-Now THIS lie I do find just a little offensive. When I didn't have health insurance, I paid for what little medical care I received out of my own pocket. Mostly, I just did without. Then I went and did what you say only conservatives do; I went and got a job that provided it.

--Okay, so you're an exceptional liberal. If this is a lie, please explain the actions of the current presidential administration.

"A conservative will read this and have a good laugh.
A liberal will read this and be offended."

I guess the point of the post was to be entertaining, not to be truthful. ROFLMAO! THERE! I'm a conservative!

--Missed again. The original post is truthful and entertaining.

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[RoadToad]

--Exactly which civil rights are homosexuals deprived of? How are they treated differently than the rest of us?

I would call the right to marry a civil right. In most states they still can't do that, and in those where they can, it's only because of "legislated respect."

"If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him."
-I would rephrase this to "Conservative politicians want down-and-out people to fend for themselves or starve, whereas liberals are willing to offer them some help."

--Liberal talking points are just plain wrong here. Conservatives are far more generous than liberals. Next time you're down and out, instead of approaching a Christian church which is no doubt infested with hard hearted conservatives, give one of the liberal satanist outfits a buzz. Let me know how that works out for you.

"Liberal satanists???" Where did THAT come from? There's a lunatic fringe on both sides.

"If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want to silence those they don't like, or with whom they disagree."
-I don't know how you can post this with a straight face, especially when you're talking about "talk show hosts" in particular. The only talk about "silencing" talk show hosts that I recall was about Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell, because of them being lesbian, and it sure as hell wasn't coming from the left!

-- As evidenced by the rest of your replies to this thread, your recall is poor. The reason Rosie and Ellen aren't on the air is bad ratings...nobody watched. Rosie's mean spirited big mouth got her canned not her sexual orientation. That and the fact that she'd make you throw up quicker than sticking a finger down your throat.

Ellen IS still on the air, and still getting great ratings. I agree about Rosie making y9u want to puke, but your response misses the point. I still maintain that the desire to silence those with whom they disagree is a characteristic more of conservatives than liberals.

"If a conservative needs health insurance he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it."
-Now THIS lie I do find just a little offensive. When I didn't have health insurance, I paid for what little medical care I received out of my own pocket. Mostly, I just did without. Then I went and did what you say only conservatives do; I went and got a job that provided it.

--Okay, so you're an exceptional liberal. If this is a lie, please explain the actions of the current presidential administration.
I wasn't talking about the actions of this or any other presidential administration, or about politicians at all, but about the actions of conservatives and liberals in the general populace. Isn't that the subject of this thread? And I really don't think my actions are all that exceptional.

[Devils Horse]

--Exactly which civil rights are homosexuals deprived of? How are they treated differently than the rest of us?

I would call the right to marry a civil right. In most states they still can't do that, and in those where they can, it's only because of "legislated respect."

You of course give it the typical liberal twist that people are being deprived of their civil rights, when in fact everyone has the right to marry.

You could 'marry' another guy if you want, and nobody will try to stop you. Hold it dear, treasure it, heck frame a certificate and put it in your front yard. Just don't expect the rest of us to accept it as a legal marriage.

It is not anyone's civil right to redefine a legal marriage for the majority of us in this country. The overwhelming majority, common sense, and nature itself has defined a marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Even our most liberal state, Californication recently voted down "legislated respect".

[parker]

This thread is a joke in itself! Bush piled up Billions in debt and kept taxes low according to consertatives. Obama is piling up Billions more in debt while keeping taxes low according to liberals.12 Trillion dollars later, All I have to say is we need to change a law and allow Clinton to run again so we can have a surplus like he left Bush! Was Clinton a liberal? If so thats what I am, a Clinton liberal who made more money while he was in office than at any other time in my life as did most consertatives.

[DJD]

Obama is piling up trillions not billions and the lame excuse is ...well bush did it too. That's a terrible excuse. Libs said bush was keeping gas prices high and that on e the get in gas prices will fall. Hmmmmm
Oh u can forget about low taxes. It's coming.....

[GeoFisher]

This thread is a joke in itself! Bush piled up Billions in debt and kept taxes low according to consertatives. Obama is piling up Billions more in debt while keeping taxes low according to liberals.12 Trillion dollars later, All I have to say is we need to change a law and allow Clinton to run again so we can have a surplus like he left Bush! Was Clinton a liberal? If so thats what I am, a Clinton liberal who made more money while he was in office than at any other time in my life as did most consertatives.

OK.....the SURPLUS that Clinton created was a JOKE...........he cut the military to the bone, and those VERY CUTS lead to some of the spending that Bush needed to do.

AND yea, Bush spent some money protecting our butts from TERRORISTS, but I guess that doesn't count. AND lets not forget.......the Trillion or so spent on the Wars, is a FIXED expense..........the GARBAGE the Obamunists are proposing are NOT FIXED expenses......they are ongoing expenses that we will NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY FOR.........

Clinton started the "it's ok to NOT be presidential" BS that the OBAMUNISTS continue. When in recent history have you EVER heard a president F-BOMB or a vice president F-BOMB on national TV.......Obama/Biden, that is WHEN.

I cannot wait until we can vote these PUKES out of office.........

Later,

Geo

[DJD]

I wonder how much of Clintons success was due to Reagan and Bush senior? Libs blame Bush for what Barry has to deal with can any credit be given the other way?

[apb]

So how come all of the examples Grumpy posted are males? To the conservative, do female opinions not count???

The problem with stuff like Grumpy posted (nice troll, btw), is that it tries to define a whole group of people based on the actions of a few at the extremes. There are a wide range of views held by both "liberals" and "conservatives". As several others noted, given the above list, I would also be considered a conservative.

It would be pretty easy to come up with a similar type of list that shows conservatives in a bad light. Sooo, just for fun :

If a liberal is homosexual, they demand legislated respect.
If a conservative politician is homosexual, he campaigns on family values, mocks gays, and then has a sorrid homosexual affair in the men's room, and then blames the liberal media for exposing him.

If a liberal doesn't like the idea of abortion, they don't have one and they try to take steps to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
If a conservative doesn't like the idea of abortion, they demand that no one has one, for any reason. Further, they try to stiffle any discussion of sexual education that does not demand abstanance.

If a liberal's candidate loses an election, they point out the faults in the opposing candidate, but will admit when the opposing candidate got it right.
If a conservative's candidate loses an election, they'll pout and complain at every chance what a worthless politician the opposition is, instigate lies and deceptive rumors to derail the opposition, and will never admit that the opposition might have done something right.

If a liberal is a believer they worship at their church of choice, but don't expect everyone else to hold their beliefs.
If a conservative is a believer, they demand freedom of religion, but only for their brand of religion.

If a liberal finds certain behaviors morally objectionable, they don't do them.
If a conservative finds certain behaviors morally objectionable, they try to legislate against those behaviors.

See, wasn't that fun and they're just as true as the ones Grumpy posted....

[Devils Horse]

It would be pretty easy to come up with a similar type of list that shows conservatives in a bad light. Sooo, just for fun :

If a liberal is homosexual, they demand legislated respect.
If a conservative politician is homosexual, he campaigns on family values, mocks gays, and then has a sorrid homosexual affair in the men's room, and then blames the liberal media for exposing him.

--Man, that's cold. Talk about picking one isolated case as an example. What category does Barney Frank fit in?

If a liberal doesn't like the idea of abortion, they don't have one and they try to take steps to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
If a conservative doesn't like the idea of abortion, they demand that no one has one, for any reason. Further, they try to stiffle any discussion of sexual education that does not demand abstanance.

--No such thing as a liberal who doesn't like the idea of an abortion. They want legally unfettered murder of unborn fetuses for any reason period. Liberals have done their best to make sure pregnant children don't even have to notify their legal guardians before having an abortion. The President of the United States, a committed liberal doesn't think his daughter 'should be punished with a baby if she makes a mistake"....

Stay away Andrew, I can wear you out all day on this one.

If a liberal's candidate loses an election, they point out the faults in the opposing candidate, but will admit when the opposing candidate got it right.
If a conservative's candidate loses an election, they'll pout and complain at every chance what a worthless politician the opposition is, instigate lies and deceptive rumors to derail the opposition, and will never admit that the opposition might have done something right.

-- No, a liberal, say Al Gore for instance will catch on to the world's biggest hoax and get stinking rich on it. Bet he sits in his giant carbon footprint of a house and laughs at his followers.

If a liberal is a believer they worship at their church of choice, but don't expect everyone else to hold their beliefs.
If a conservative is a believer, they demand freedom of religion, but only for their brand of religion.

--Don't expect everyone to hold to their beliefs? Spare me. Liberals have made sure the Lord's Prayer can't be posted in government buildings, 'one nation under god' was removed from the Pledge, instead of prayer in our public schools we get the ever insightful moment of silence.

BTW conservatives' er 'brand' of religion happens to be a huge part of what this country we're living in was based on.

If a liberal finds certain behaviors morally objectionable, they don't do them.
If a conservative finds certain behaviors morally objectionable, they try to legislate against those behaviors.

--Problem is there is no such thing as morally objectionable behavior to a liberal.

See, wasn't that fun and they're just as true as the ones Grumpy posted....

You're wrong about how true yours are, but you're right...this is pretty fun.

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[apb]

DH,

Like Grumpy's original post, you try to generalize and lump everyone together under one heading. Sorry, but the world just does not work that way. There are a wide range of opinions expressed by "liberals" and "conservatives". Like I said, my list was in jest. And yes, it is as truthful and Grumpy's original list (both highlight the extremes).

A few specific points:

...--Man, that's cold. Talk about picking one isolated case as an example. What category does Barney Frank fit in?

One specific one recently in an airport. Several others over the years too. Frank does not hide the fact that he is gay.

...--No such thing as a liberal who doesn't like the idea of an abortion. They want legally unfettered murder of unborn fetuses for any reason period. Liberals have done their best to make sure pregnant children don't even have to notify their legal guardians before having an abortion. The President of the United States, a committed liberal doesn't think his daughter 'should be punished with a baby if she makes a mistake"....

I think you will find that there are VERY few people who like the idea of abortion. As we have discussed on this forum before, I do not like the idea at all, but do recognize that it is sometimes necessary (rape, incest, health of the mother, etc.). The decission to end a pregnacy should be left up to two people: those involved. The gov't needs to stay the hell out of that decision. I would hate to see something like that case in Ireland a number of years back where a 16 year old was raped and became pregnant. The govt tried to force her to have the kid and were trying to stop her from leaving the country to have an abortion. No way anyone should have had to endure all of that. Too many on the far right would force any woman who became pregnant to go through the pregnancy no matter what the circumstances.

Anyone under the age of 18 should have to have parental permission. Obama's comment was assinine.

....Don't expect everyone to hold to their beliefs? Spare me. Liberals have made sure the Lord's Prayer can't be posted in government buildings, 'one nation under god' was removed from the Pledge, instead of prayer in our public schools we get the ever insightful moment of silence.
BTW conservatives' er 'brand' of religion happens to be a huge part of what this country we're living in was based on. ...

Why should prayers that specifically identify with one religion be allowed in a government building? Having such prayers there suggests that the government is a sponser of that religion. Against the constitution.
"One nation under god" was added to the pledge in the 1950's. Its not always been there. It was a product of the McCarthy era. I really don't think the US wants to go down that road again.

You can have prayer in a public school. I know many kids who prayed while I was in school. They just did it on their own. How else would you do it? Go round the class/school and do a prayer from each of the religions represented on different days? A moment of silence allows you the time to pray if you so desire, or not.

There is no question that most of the founding fathers held christian beliefs. Notice though how they did not specify these in the constitution? If they had wanted American to be a christian nation, they could have easily stated so in the constitution. Freedom of religion and no state sponsered religion means that you can worship however you please. You really want the govt specifying what religion you must follow? Note also that there were many influences that are part of the constituion (e.g., Magna Carter, Bible, Hammarabi's Law, etc.), not just christian ones.

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-- No, a liberal, say Al Gore for instance will catch on to the world's biggest hoax and get stinking rich on it.

My appologies DH, I did not realize that you were such an expert on climate change. Prehaps you can explain these changes to the rest of us.

....Problem is there is no such thing as morally objectionable behavior to a liberal.

Complete bull.

Andrew

[Devils Horse]

Andrew,

I didn't try to generalize and lump people into categories anymore than you did. Take a look at the thread, you picked extreme examples in almost every case.

There's almost nobody who thinks abortion shouldn't be an option for rape and incest victims, yet you trot out that tired old liberal talking point. Yes, there are far right people who don't believe there should be abortions for any reason, but there's a hell of a lot more liberals who want access to abortions so easy it can be a form of birth control. The libs ultimate offering to the supreme court, Ginsberg was the sole voter FOR partial birth abortions.

All I can say about Christian prayers in government buildings is it worked fine for America the first 150 years till liberals began to enlighten us all. Do you think all the U.S. currency with "In God We Trust" printed on it should be recalled? Or should we just print several versions like the recent run of state quarters? Can't wait to collect my "In'shalah" dollar bill.

I'm no expert on climate change, or anything else for that matter.

But if it's such solid science, maybe YOU can explain for the rest of us how it was called 'global warming' up until we had some cold weather and Al and his buddies looked like fools. All of a sudden it became a 'climate change' problem and the federal government is looking to get into the carbon credit business. While you're at it enlighten us how a 'terrorist act' suddenly became a 'man made disaster', or the war on terror became an 'interdiction'.

These questions are far too deep for a backward old foaming at the mouth conservative, I beg your indulgence.