civilians always get killed in wars, some times by accident, sometimes on purpose. Remember hiroshima? dressden, warsaw, it happens. How can it be avoided, easy WIN and write history. As far as I'm concerned the wars should both be over, we took their names kicked their butts, so why did we stick around? Sounds like empire building to me, ask the british and french how thjat worked for them.and before you jump my bones, got a grandkid on his third tour.Yep Old Cutis LeMay had a good point, bomb em back into the stone age.Or send all of them up to allah, the ones he likes he'll surely send back.