by the way....what is wrong with live bait? and before you start, i use circle hooks and there is 100% hook rate in the corner of the mouth, and i mean 100%, better odds than the often gut hooked smallies and spots caught on shakyheads that we've caught over tha last few years. Man at the end of the day we are all fishermen, we all want the same thrill of catching the best the species has to offer, choose your weapon i'll choose mine somedays yours will beat mine others mine will beat yours, but i will never snort at your tecnique. and for the guy trolling on dale hollow, you have mastered an art....tight lines to you!