Thanks for this thread and all the replies, this was very informative to me. I'm no where near an "expert", probably a low intermediate at best, but I try to do what bassman ky is saying when I fish points. What always frustrates me is when I see arches on my sonar that I'm 90% sure are bass by there position in relation to structure, baitfish etc and I still can't get a hit. That's the fun in fishing I guess