Kool man thanks for the feed back just want to kinda kick back and not work to hard on the fishin. I've red about the stripers and will deffinetly have a "little george" armed and ready. Don't really want to rack my brain tring to figure the fish out like I say r&r is what I'm after mainly. Thats kinda why I'm thinking bluegill and I'll definatly look for the cats.