Grumpy, the fact that I used today's politically correct term, "illegal immigrants," and not what USED to be the politically correct one, "illegal aliens," is just semantics. They do fit the dictionary definition of "immigrant," but if you chose to call them "aliens," that's your right. And no, I haven't been conned into believing what I believe, namely, that if Arizona wants to take over where the feds have failed, the best way for them to do that would be contribute more toward securing the border. Or maybe they're doing that, and I'm not aware of it? If so, someone please enlighten me.