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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    In my opinion the post season points screw job is just as stupid as FLW zeroing the weight after the first two days. I have a buddy that got screwed in the 2004 stren series championship because of this. On the co-angler side the guy that won was in 9th place after day 2. The weights zeroed and because that guy caught a bigger bag on the final day he won. Never mind total all 3 days together Earl would have won by over a pound.

    Also H.C. Sumpter lost because of this format.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    In my opinion the post season points screw job is just as stupid as FLW zeroing the weight after the first two days. I have a buddy that got screwed in the 2004 stren series championship because of this. On the co-angler side the guy that won was in 9th place after day 2. The weights zeroed and because that guy caught a bigger bag on the final day he won. Never mind total all 3 days together Earl would have won by over a pound.

    Also H.C. Sumpter lost because of this format.

    LOL you should have seen how much money that cost Kevin Wirth when he was fishing FLW! Only about $300,000.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    dropping anglers' first two days weight isn't smart either...much like messing with the points. that is just my opinion and it is ok to disagree.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Quote Originally Posted by offdtop View Post
    lol... sorry Woody I guess i should have added "in December"
    I did not know you could catch Smallmouth at Dale Hollow in December. When did this start happening? Any tips you could give a fella ? Seems the water would be too cold for the fish and fishermen at that time. My guess is a Carolina Rigged Pink Double Blade Buzzbait with a 10" Black Grape Powerwom trailer would work in December.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Quote Originally Posted by elnutsmalljaws View Post
    I did not know you could catch Smallmouth at Dale Hollow in December. When did this start happening? Any tips you could give a fella ? Seems the water would be too cold for the fish and fishermen at that time. My guess is a Carolina Rigged Pink Double Blade Buzzbait with a 10" Black Grape Powerwom trailer would work in December.
    You got it; I'm sure that is what you won the Westmoreland Tourney on.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner View Post
    You got it; I'm sure that is what you won the Westmoreland Tourney on.
    You caught me, I admit it. It was not a Double Bladed Pink Buzzbait, it was a Single Blade Orange Buzzbait. Besides, I did not win the Westmoreland, Catchemall did. I was just a NETBOY.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Ok think about this if the last two seasons events where regular format and the whole feild was competeing ,would skeet have won ? WE will never know the system is what it is. And skeet didn't win.
    People think the format shouldn't close up the feild heck the best play offs in the world NCAA BASKETBALL everyone starts even just like the regular season didn't count other than rankings which is opinions.... Talk about a messed up number one spot named look at golf right now.. Tiger is awful but because he has won so much money he still is number one in the world. Man what sport can you stink as bad as he does right now, and be number one

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    there is no perfect system...playoff no playoff... head to head (match play) no match play...formulas no formulas...polls no polls...what is the balance? you can always argue there are holes. i also don't know how golf's #1 ranking works. i agree that i am very surprised that Tiger is still #1 especially after this weekend. not everyone makes it into the NCAA tournament. there is an independent committee that looks at a lot of things to see who is in the tournament. there is always going to be controversy. i just hope the new crew puts it together better than what it is now.

    i didn't get to see Bassmasters this morning, but right now Skeet + Alabama + Summer does not = AOY. I am not going to say he choked, but he sure has some trouble with this equation. AOY or not i sure would like to learn a few things from Skeet. Everyone knew the rules (fair or not) and KVD won it.

    I love watching these guys fish. So I hope they continue to put them out on the water showcasing their talents.

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    AOY is about points accumulated during the regular season and always has been. This was nothing more than a "cash cow" for ESPN's version of BASS without any regard to the history of the AOY award. I kind of threwup in my Mouth a little watching KVD jump around like he had accomplished something. There's noway he could have overcome a 300 point deficit that Skeet had built without the assist from BASS!!!! I know KVD is an awesome angler and he took advantage of the system but to jump around like he really "won" AOY was pretty disheartening. There should be an asterisk placed by the 2010 AOY. If you wanted to add two tourneys than the points should have never been altered and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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    Re: KVD is a MACHINE

    Put the post season on Clear Lake and The CA Delta next year and let it play out. Change up the location and format and see what transpires. If I'm not mistaken, BASS is taking the post season right back to AL next summer! Under the current format, Skeet would have ruled and KVD would have stumbled in a Clear Lake/Delta scenario.

    I feel for Skeet for losing AOY after the amazing year he had. KVD ruled the final events in AL for AOY but Skeet deserved AOY for sure, based on his performance over the entire fsihing season. Skeet was the REAL AOY IMO.

    Something else to think about... Take ESPNs "coverage" with a grain of salt. Like anything on television, "the coverage" can be manipulated to reflect many things. I watched it and thought ESPN did a a great job in making Skeet look like a loser who choked big time. Granted, he lost 2 fish that would have made him AOY. But I'm sure others lost fish that never made "the coverage" on ESPN2.

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