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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    Are you kidding! You people want the government to step in and deny citizens the right to worship where they want? Talk about stepping on the the bill of rights! Which ones apply and which ones dont?
    DUDE.......that sure is calling the kettle black.......

    It is the very LEFT that want to throw out public prayer, eliminate the Pledge, DENY students from praying at our public monuments, DENY STUDENTS from singing the National Anthem........Yet these FOOLS scream, rant, rave, YELL, and call you a RACIST, if you don't want a **** mosque to be built within 1 block from this countrys WORSE attack...........EVER.

    I will say it again........when will enough be enough.....when they are yelling allah akbar on the very site THEY conquered??

    You my friend sure have a POOR idea of who wants to deny your rights........

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    I'd say because hes a Muslim from Kenya. The mosque is something that he can be very proud of. After all his main goal for U.S is to reach out to the Muslim world, show them how much we love them and approve of their way of life. You think this is bad wait until they start protesting for their Sharia Law like they have done in the U.K.

    Everything that this Pres and administration does is proof of why people like me are stocking up on ammo and food.

    AMERICANS BUY ENOUGH AMMUNITION IN 12 MONTHS TO EQUAL TWO BOXES FOR EVERYONE IN THE USA.
    A record setting 12 billion rounds of ammunition have been bought by Americans in the last 12 months. That's up five billion over a normal year.
    Last edited by Catfish Bob; 08-16-2010 at 08:18 AM.

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    So big deal, there are over 10islamic mosques in Ky, I'm not for anything muslim, infact I believe all non american muslims shpud be deported.But the constitution unfortunatly says something about freedom of religion.That building will not be the only islamic site in that area.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Margie, you asked the question: "Obama approved the mosgue near ground zero? Does this mean it is going to be built? " His approval wasn't needed in order for it to be built, he was just making a comment. He said it was legal for them to build it, but "unwise." He should have just kept his yap shut. Being the head of the Executive Branch, not the Judicial Branch, the question of its legality was not before him, and now, if it somehow ends up going to the Supreme Court and they allow it, opponents will say he prejudiced the case, and rightly so. And if he was going to comment, calling it "unwise" was the understatement of the year. "Insensitive" would have closer, but still quite an understatement.

    That said, I think he's right that it's legal. There's probably no constitutional way to stop it. So, we can either rip up the Constitution and block it (a victory for the terrorists), or we can allow them to build it, and give them the middle finger for doing so.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    You are right RoadToad, he should have kept his mouth closed on it. I think his popularity will go down even further now. I hear the major of NYC is very pro building it. I dont think they cant stop Muslims from building a mosgue since they bought the building BUT it doesnt have to be built there! If the real purpose of Muslims is to have a place of worship then build it someone else in NYC that has a large Muslim community. If they insist that it has to be there then that should show all people who support what their real intent is, right? All I can say if they proceed and build it, who is to say how long it will be standing? Who can say that a distraught survivor of Sept 11th or a family member wont bomb it. Karma says what goes around comes around. I think that applies to Muslims.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    I HAVE SAID AND WILL NOT APOLOGIZE, that Muslims have no business building a mosque anywhere near Ground Zero. My reason is valid and SANE. It was Muslims that killed 3,000 people on that site and I am generalizing because every doggone Muslim gets their religious instructions from an Imam, most either residing in the middle east or being tutored from there. The terrorists flying the planes were from the middle east and were Muslims. I don't want to hear that Muslims in the United States are peaceful people. They live by the Quaran (sp). Doesn't it teach them to kill the infidels or people who are not Muslims. The bombing of the Twin Towers took the life of my first cousin and lead to the war in Iraq which took the life of my brother. I take the building of a mosque at Ground Zero personally and consider it smearing their deaths in my face all over again.

    If you want to talk about the government stepping in to deny citizens the right to worship where they want, why did you conveniently forget about prayer and Bible reading in schools? Talk to us about the government denying CHRISTIAN students the right to have prayer and Bible reading in schools. At the same time, and in some of the same schools, they provide a room and and time out of classes for Muslims to go say prayers and worship their god. How can you call that the freedom to worship for Christians? YOU tell us which bill of rights apply because you seem to be the only one who knows.
    All ten apply. I am a christian and have never in my life been denied my time in prayer, at school or anywhere else! If someone needs an audience to show they are in prayer, they got it all wrong to begin with.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    If someone needs an audience to show they are in prayer, they got it all wrong to begin with.
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

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    Geo
    Im not trying to legitimize anything. I dont like the idea of a mosque being built there either but I further dislike the idea of a government telling any religion where they can or cannot build anything religious! If we go down that road there will be no stopping the government! Obama should have kept his mouth shut on this topic in my opinion but in the end he is right.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

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    Geo
    It's 5 times a day, and no, they don't blast the prayers over a loudspeaker. What they blast over the loudspeaker is the call to the mosque to pray.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    It's 5 times a day, and no, they don't blast the prayers over a loudspeaker. What they blast over the loudspeaker is the call to the mosque to pray.
    Details..........

    AND if you don't pray........what do they do......CUT your head off or something??

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    I love it.....Obama is the biggest gift that us Republicans have ever received! Keep it up Obama....

    -Rich

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    All ten apply. I am a christian and have never in my life been denied my time in prayer, at school or anywhere else! If someone needs an audience to show they are in prayer, they got it all wrong to begin with.
    Are you still in school? How long has it been since you were allowed to pray the Lord's prayer along with the rest of the class? Does your teacher still begin first period class with a daily devotional? How about The Pledge of Allegiance? Nobody has mentioned needing an audience and you can't screw this thing around to make it look like prayer was all for show. Those are traditions that were followed even back in the days when the church house was also the school house.

    If the government is allowed to take prayer and Bible reading out of schools, how much longer will it be before they do the same at YOUR church and YOUR home? I have a friend in Montana who was in a home Bible study with six of her friends when the police came crashing in. The homeowner was arrested and charged with using her private residence as a church without proper zoning and license. Her neighbor called the police because he was atheist and didn't like the QUIET, PEACEFUL, BIBLE READING AND PRAYERS inside a private residence in his neighborhood.

    You do not speak for others when you say that you have never been denied your time in prayer. You are just ONE person with one voice.

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