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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    I would still like to know why and how the Muslims recevied permission to build their Mosque ON NEWLY ACQUIRED LAND when two Christian churches next to the World Trade Center that were destroyed on 9/11 still have not received permission to rebuild their churches ON LAND THEY HAVE OWNED FOR MANY YEARS, and for that matter, the owners of the land where the World Trade Center was still have not been approved for any new buidlings (this according to Fox News)!!! (How is that for a run on sentence?)

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    I would still like to know why and how the Muslims recevied permission to build their Mosque ON NEWLY ACQUIRED LAND when two Christian churches next to the World Trade Center that were destroyed on 9/11 still have not received permission to rebuild their churches ON LAND THEY HAVE OWNED FOR MANY YEARS, and for that matter, the owners of the land where the World Trade Center was still have not been approved for any new buidlings (this according to Fox News)!!! (How is that for a run on sentence?)

    Grumpy
    Just asking, do we know for sure the church owned the land? In some cases, the city retains title to the land, and the person that builds the building only has a possessory right so long as the land is used for that purpose only. Just asking, did the TV guys clear that up.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/mosque-plan...ry?id=10747570

    Ah.......the city approved it, not Obama, according to this.

    And.....WOW, they are building at ground zero and have been since 2005?
    http://www.lowermanhattan.info/const...wer_26204.aspx

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by wishniwasfishn View Post
    You know the Muslims knew what kind of stir this would cause, and they choose to go ahead and apply to have the Mosque put there, why? because its a big slap in the face of America. They knew Osama, I mean Obama would approve it, the probaly talked about when he was visiting family over there. Do you think these same Muslims would of tried to build this Mosque when George Bust was President, I think he would of had that smirk on his face, and told the American people, let them try it!!! If these people had ANY RESPECT for the American people, they would of never ever even considered this, they know exactly what they are doing, and they are all laughing in our faces!!!
    Obama didn't approve it.....he said its not right to deny freedom of religion.
    He can't approve it. The New York City folks are the ones who have to issued the building permit, review the zoning laws, and decide what gets built in their City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    Obama didn't approve it.....he said its not right to deny freedom of religion.
    He can't approve it. The New York City folks are the ones who have to issued the building permit, review the zoning laws, and decide what gets built in their City.
    Yeah...You're correct on this one, BUT...Even though he can't approve anything when it comes to the construction of buildings, he APPROVES of it! And considering the high office that he holds is colse enough to approving it in my opinion.

    If they'd let the American people vote on it I'd bet it wouldn't be approved. My vote says burn the prints and specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubminnow View Post
    Yeah...You're correct on this one, BUT...Even though he can't approve anything when it comes to the construction of buildings, he APPROVES of it! And considering the high office that he holds is colse enough to approving it in my opinion.

    If they'd let the American people vote on it I'd bet it wouldn't be approved. My vote says burn the prints and specs.
    That's what I meant Tim, obviously he is not on the builiding commitee, but I bet he would pressure whomever he had to to make sure it was approved!

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    I noticed that the first thing you posted was STUPID which was your Words of Wisdom on your profile: "He who goes to bed with itchy butt wakes up with stinky finger." It's always a delight to meet a Christian with so much class.....and with a brain.
    Okay....for the record.....I wear shorts to prevent exactly that same allegation.

    So Mr. Itchy Butt.... wear shorts.....come on man....be civil dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post

    If the government is allowed to take prayer and Bible reading out of schools, how much longer will it be before they do the same at YOUR church and YOUR home? I have a friend in Montana who was in a home Bible study with six of her friends when the police came crashing in. The homeowner was arrested and charged with using her private residence as a church without proper zoning and license. Her neighbor called the police because he was atheist and didn't like the QUIET, PEACEFUL, BIBLE READING AND PRAYERS inside a private residence in his neighborhood.
    wow that is crazy. I don't understand why the cops follow un constitutional orders. I guess they don't care.
    It'd make since for him to stop by and say hello just to keep the peskey neighbor happy. But to arrest and charge,,,,gezzzzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    Are you still in school? How long has it been since you were allowed to pray the Lord's prayer along with the rest of the class? Does your teacher still begin first period class with a daily devotional? How about The Pledge of Allegiance? Nobody has mentioned needing an audience and you can't screw this thing around to make it look like prayer was all for show. Those are traditions that were followed even back in the days when the church house was also the school house.

    If the government is allowed to take prayer and Bible reading out of schools, how much longer will it be before they do the same at YOUR church and YOUR home? I have a friend in Montana who was in a home Bible study with six of her friends when the police came crashing in. The homeowner was arrested and charged with using her private residence as a church without proper zoning and license. Her neighbor called the police because he was atheist and didn't like the QUIET, PEACEFUL, BIBLE READING AND PRAYERS inside a private residence in his neighborhood.

    You do not speak for others when you say that you have never been denied your time in prayer. You are just ONE person with one voice.
    Sweetie, you must be quite a bit older than I, no pun intended. I am 44 and although I do remember saying the pledge of alegiance I cannot remember hearing a devotional in school. I asked my 13 year old and he said they still say the pledge everyday at his school. As far as your friend having the police crash her private prayer group she needs a LAWYER to file a civil suit fast! She also needs to call FOX NEWS to give them the story, they love stuff like this.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    [QUOTE=parker;424690]I am 44 and although I do remember saying the pledge of alegiance I cannot remember hearing a devotional in school. I asked my 13 year old and he said they still say the pledge everyday at his school.[QUOTE]

    You should have paid attention in class. I must be somewhat older than you because they say it's the "young whipper-snappers" who know everything. I went to school during the days of "Little House on the Prairie." I have a 14 year-old and she clearly remembers their daily devotional (The 23rd Psalm), The Lord's Prayer, and The Pledge of Allegiance. It's too bad your son missed those golden nuggets. I hope you step up to the plate and teach them to him.

    No further discussion is necessary.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    ... It's too bad your son missed those golden nuggets. I hope you step up to the plate and teach them to him...
    The home is where such things should be taught, not in a public school. Would you feel the same about your kids learning "golden nuggets" of Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Budist, etc. religions in school? Why should others in public school be forced to learn your religion?

    Don, there has been plenty of condemnation of islamic terrorist attacks by various islamic organizations and leaders. Google them, they don't show up on Fox news.

    Some good stuff by HurricaneBob too. Must have gotten a good bottle of Makers recently or something

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Lol I honestly watch more than fox news. I'm sorry it isn't enough for me. Maybe all those thousands of hours I have watched tv since 911 of many channels could have produced one interview for me. Guess I missed it. Btw, I can bet fox would have carried it after all they are fair and balanced.

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