Very Simple Question about Obama

[parker]

[QUOTE=bassin_bug;424753][QUOTE=parker;424690]I am 44 and although I do remember saying the pledge of alegiance I cannot remember hearing a devotional in school. I asked my 13 year old and he said they still say the pledge everyday at his school.

You should have paid attention in class. I must be somewhat older than you because they say it's the "young whipper-snappers" who know everything. I went to school during the days of "Little House on the Prairie." I have a 14 year-old and she clearly remembers their daily devotional (The 23rd Psalm), The Lord's Prayer, and The Pledge of Allegiance. It's too bad your son missed those golden nuggets. I hope you step up to the plate and teach them to him.

No further discussion is necessary.

No need to worry. All my children get their knowledge of the Bible at home with family and Church. I dont send them to a public school to achieve a greater understanding of their faith, I send them to get an education.

[MrSplitshot]

My Papaw told me one time..."Whatever you do, don't argue with someone about religion. When you debate about God, or whose God is the right God, or who's interpretation of the Bible is best, the arguments get awfully low on facts and awfully high on emotion. Believe what you believe, and let the rest be. We live in America, where you can believe whatever you want to believe, and you don't have to apologize to a **** soul for it. Save your breath for something you can debate with facts...like how a Ford is a whole lot better than a Chevy."

The Constitution and Freedom of Religion are some pretty rigid cords in the backbone of this country...and while I have enjoyed reading these threads immensely and respect everyone's opinions, I'm awfully hesitant to chime in with mine. It's not because I don't believe in them, but because I think the old man was right.



Of course, Papaw also told me that my Granny had a birthmark on her butt shaped like Florida with a mole where Disney World is...and I believed that too.

[DJD]

My Papaw told me one time..."Whatever you do, don't argue with someone about religion. When you debate about God, or whose God is the right God, or who's interpretation of the Bible is best, the arguments get awfully low on facts and awfully high on emotion. Believe what you believe, and let the rest be. We live in America, where you can believe whatever you want to believe, and you don't have to apologize to a **** soul for it. Save your breath for something you can debate with facts...like how a Ford is a whole lot better than a Chevy."

The Constitution and Freedom of Religion are some pretty rigid cords in the backbone of this country...and while I have enjoyed reading these threads immensely and respect everyone's opinions, I'm awfully hesitant to chime in with mine. It's not because I don't believe in them, but because I think the old man was right.



Of course, Papaw also told me that my Granny had a birthmark on her butt shaped like Florida with a mole where Disney World is...and I believed that too.

Wise wise wise!! I'm done with this thread too as far as commenting on this topic. Its a no win for anyone....

[Chubminnow]

Save your breath for something you can debate with facts...like how a Ford is a whole lot better than a Chevy."

Ain't no debate to be had about that subject, all that right there is is fightin' words! I come from a long line of Chevrolet history...I was conceived in the back seat of a 57 Chevy...debate over! lol, lol, lol....

I started the thread and didn't intend for it to get religeous...it's just good ol' common sense in my opinion to not build a freakin' mosque within ear shot of where the Twin Towers ONCE stood...religeous or not, that's just a HUGE slap in the face to the survivors of the attack and the loved one's of those who didn't survive the attack. All most any of you all would have to do is look back on that day and remember how most people in this country felt at the time, remember the news papers printing up American Flags for circulation the following day? That was their effort to make sure everyone had a flag to wave, I put my paper flag in the back of my truck window. It stayed there until it was nothing more than a tannish/brownish piece of paper. America sure did come together as one there for awhile, I wish we had that kind of team spirit today. It seems to me we're getting more divided now than we ever have been. I wonder if anyone would have approved of building this Mosque within one week after the attacks? Maybe (cause there's a lot of whack jobs running around), maybe not (most likely not). So what has changed since that day?

So why the division of people for and against, religeous or not? The most religeous person I know is my mom...lots of days I'll go to mom and dad's house, walk in the front door, and there mom is, sitting on the couch with her bible in her lap, she has literally worn her bible out over the years...the spine is beginning to become unglued, the edges of the pages are dingy yellow from where her fingers have flipped through them time and time again...and even though she knows right from wrong...she too is having a hard time accepting the possible building of this mosque.

In her own words: "Something's not right".

[RoadToad]

I find it interesting to see the Pledge of Allegiance cited in what's turned into a religious thread. I wonder if those who mention it remember that when it was written, the phrase "under God" was not part of it? FDR, the author of the New Deal, that president that so may RIGHTISTS (sorry George, couldn't resist ) love to hate, inserted it.

[GeoFisher]

I find it interesting to see the Pledge of Allegiance cited in what's turned into a religious thread. I wonder if those who mention it remember that when it was written, the phrase "under God" was not part of it? FDR, the author of the New Deal, that president that so may RIGHTISTS (sorry George, couldn't resist ) love to hate, inserted it.

Well, then FDR did at least something RIGHT.

[Mean Morone]

I'm for religious freedom also. Thats why I think the Mosque should be treated the same way the Greek Orthidox church that got destroyed by one of the collapsing towers is being treated by the same people that want the mosque built. I like BO's opinion that local authorities should have the final decision(they do anyway) even though the terrorist attacked the entire U.S. not just New York. Now he needs to leave AZ alone. I say bring back Nativities, ten commandments, star of David, ect. and post them around ground zero. Everyone should be very happy with all the religious freedom we have then. As for schools, I say instead of throwing out religion, we throw out the government and let the local people that BO want to make decisions, decide what goes on in there. I'm for strong local government and limited fed government.