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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Chubminnow View Post
    Same thing with Arizona's immigration law, the majority of citizens are against the law but since you're driving the bus you do as you please REGARDLESS of what anyone desires.
    Could you clarify what you mean in this sentence? It seems you are saying that a majority of the country disagree with the actual law... but the opposite is true... a majority of americans supported this law and opposed the supreme courts volation of the 10th ammendment in oevrturning parts of the law...

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkeraviator View Post
    Could you clarify what you mean in this sentence? It seems you are saying that a majority of the country disagree with the actual law... but the opposite is true... a majority of americans supported this law and opposed the supreme courts volation of the 10th ammendment in oevrturning parts of the law...
    Clarification is; "The last I heard on the news was that most of the American people in this country are in agreement with Arizona's law of checking green cards, etc..." This is what I mean...I guess when I started this thread and began writing it caused my blood pressure to go up with each sentence and I may have got a little carried away.

    Nobama....get off my porch BOY! Sorry to the fishin.com folks if I sound redneck or if I sound like anything else you may think I sound like here in my posts. I never promised to be politically correct....heck with being politically correct. It is what it is and I'm fed up with the pathetic, ridiculous, idiotic and lame excuse we have for "leaders" (cough, choke) of this country. They're leading us alright, they're leading us right down to the road of ruin!

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    Are you kidding! You people want the government to step in and deny citizens the right to worship where they want? Talk about stepping on the the bill of rights! Which ones apply and which ones dont?

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    I HAVE SAID AND WILL NOT APOLOGIZE, that Muslims have no business building a mosque anywhere near Ground Zero. My reason is valid and SANE. It was Muslims that killed 3,000 people on that site and I am generalizing because every doggone Muslim gets their religious instructions from an Imam, most either residing in the middle east or being tutored from there. The terrorists flying the planes were from the middle east and were Muslims. I don't want to hear that Muslims in the United States are peaceful people. They live by the Quaran (sp). Doesn't it teach them to kill the infidels or people who are not Muslims. The bombing of the Twin Towers took the life of my first cousin and lead to the war in Iraq which took the life of my brother. I take the building of a mosque at Ground Zero personally and consider it smearing their deaths in my face all over again.

    If you want to talk about the government stepping in to deny citizens the right to worship where they want, why did you conveniently forget about prayer and Bible reading in schools? Talk to us about the government denying CHRISTIAN students the right to have prayer and Bible reading in schools. At the same time, and in some of the same schools, they provide a room and and time out of classes for Muslims to go say prayers and worship their god. How can you call that the freedom to worship for Christians? YOU tell us which bill of rights apply because you seem to be the only one who knows.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    I HAVE SAID AND WILL NOT APOLOGIZE, that Muslims have no business building a mosque anywhere near Ground Zero. My reason is valid and SANE. It was Muslims that killed 3,000 people on that site and I am generalizing because every doggone Muslim gets their religious instructions from an Imam, most either residing in the middle east or being tutored from there. The terrorists flying the planes were from the middle east and were Muslims. I don't want to hear that Muslims in the United States are peaceful people. They live by the Quaran (sp). Doesn't it teach them to kill the infidels or people who are not Muslims. The bombing of the Twin Towers took the life of my first cousin and lead to the war in Iraq which took the life of my brother. I take the building of a mosque at Ground Zero personally and consider it smearing their deaths in my face all over again.

    If you want to talk about the government stepping in to deny citizens the right to worship where they want, why did you conveniently forget about prayer and Bible reading in schools? Talk to us about the government denying CHRISTIAN students the right to have prayer and Bible reading in schools. At the same time, and in some of the same schools, they provide a room and and time out of classes for Muslims to go say prayers and worship their god. How can you call that the freedom to worship for Christians? YOU tell us which bill of rights apply because you seem to be the only one who knows.
    All ten apply. I am a christian and have never in my life been denied my time in prayer, at school or anywhere else! If someone needs an audience to show they are in prayer, they got it all wrong to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    If someone needs an audience to show they are in prayer, they got it all wrong to begin with.
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

    Later,

    Geo
    Im not trying to legitimize anything. I dont like the idea of a mosque being built there either but I further dislike the idea of a government telling any religion where they can or cannot build anything religious! If we go down that road there will be no stopping the government! Obama should have kept his mouth shut on this topic in my opinion but in the end he is right.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Man.....you GOT that right......

    BUT, you still legitimize a religion that requires you to pray 7 times a day......AND they blast the prayers over a loudspeaker for EVERYONE TO HEAR.

    I guess your argument doesn't hold water.............eh.

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    Geo
    It's 5 times a day, and no, they don't blast the prayers over a loudspeaker. What they blast over the loudspeaker is the call to the mosque to pray.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    It's 5 times a day, and no, they don't blast the prayers over a loudspeaker. What they blast over the loudspeaker is the call to the mosque to pray.
    Details..........

    AND if you don't pray........what do they do......CUT your head off or something??

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Details..........

    AND if you don't pray........what do they do......CUT your head off or something??
    In the THEOCRACIES, maybe something like that. But that's a problem with THEOCRACY, not Islam itself.

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Details..........

    AND if you don't pray........what do they do......CUT your head off or something??
    Oh no......naw......they do the same kinda cool things a Christian Church would do if you showed up on Sunday for church wearing only a thong and with a cigar and a six pack in your hand

    Hey, at a Catholic School, what happens if your Senior in High School goes to class with a Harley leather jacket on, black jeans, chains on his belt and a spiked hair cut?

    Might we say all religions enforce their own religious norms?

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    Re: Very Simple Question about Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    It's 5 times a day, and no, they don't blast the prayers over a loudspeaker. What they blast over the loudspeaker is the call to the mosque to pray.
    Toad, you are right sir.

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