Proposed Ban on Lead Fishing Tackle

[4given]

TIC vote liberal save the whales, kill the babies

[tracy]

If I remember right there ARE states that have banned lead. California comes to mind. If you go to many sports shop all they carry is tungsten.

lead is not banned in cali. They just warning label on everything.

[Bass Addict 170]

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/b...roposed_100901


We have got to stop Barack Obama, Lisa Jackson, and the EPA this is really starting to get absurd. Outdoorsmen, we must stand up for ourselves becuase beleive me no one is going to do it for us. Hunters your next, after this it'll be a "Proposed Ban on Lead Bullets". And they wonder why Americans are so fed up and angry with our Government!!!

http://politics.usnews.com/news/wash...-protests.html

Hunters are in the clear from this ban...issue would conflict with the 2nd Amendment. Some feel it was a backdoor attempt to control weapons by anti-gun activists. HOWEVER, a decision is still pending on whether or not to ban lead sinkers and other lead tackle. This is being reviewed by the EPA, but there is a chance it could pass.

[zx150]

DONE. I have a buddy that works for the department of water as a biologist. He said that once the lead gets out of the oxygen column it won't break down and harm anything. Buy the way he pours all of his own baits.

I have several hundred pounds of lead so if the ban goes into affect, it will take a year or two for it to effect me lol.

[Bass Addict 170]

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...00006480b3f0cd

This is a continuation of what I posted earlier...go to this EPA website and make a comment if you oppose the lead ban in fishing tackle. ALL COMMENTS MUST BE SUBMITED BY SEPTEMBER 15!!!

[kydonky]

My main complaint about this thread is that are we turning this board into a political blog? Responses like "no science bunny haggers" are really far fetched. Where did this guy go to school and what biology courses did he take. What studies has he done. Obamunists hype for programs that have been understudy for 20+ years, refences to crack pipes, come on where did your brain get washed?

I'm just saying to try and be responsable out there in the world. Use the steel weights when you can and where they work for you, catch and release fish that you don't eat. Promote hunting and fishing to your children, friends and your comunity. The deer herds in Ky are heathier and more plentiful now than when Danial Boone was hunting. Thanks to game management. Yes we need hunters and fishermen to help manage herds and fisheries. Note the slot sizes that have inproved numbers and size of fish.

So don't turn this into a political blog. I think they will see tackle is not a major source of contamination. But, if you can use the steel thats good. I think we could improve on the othe contaminates such as mercury & PCBs, but I guess that would kill jobs.

I was in Cleveland when the Cuyahoga river caught on fire and burned for miles and days. So I am not going to believe that pollution is some left wing attempt to controll the universe.

[kydonky]

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/b...roposed_100901


We have got to stop Barack Obama, Lisa Jackson, and the EPA this is really starting to get absurd. Outdoorsmen, we must stand up for ourselves becuase beleive me no one is going to do it for us. Hunters your next, after this it'll be a "Proposed Ban on Lead Bullets". And they wonder why Americans are so fed up and angry with our Government!!!

Well lets see, I used to be able to eat one Ohio river fish every 6 months, but now I think they may have changed that to one every two years. Mercury, PCBs and lead in Kentucky river fish, not real sure if I can eat my catch from there either. So lets just panic over any attempts to protect our environment. References to Obama and payback to left wing is just obsurd. These issues have been being studied for 10+ years. Lead contamination has been known to cause a multitude of problems in both humans and wildlfe since the 1930s. Developmental delays in children, nurological disorders. Believe it or not lead does contaminate water. My well is no longer drinkable.

I think I will use the steel weights as much as I can. Let those that are experts research the issues, avoid idiodic associations like Obama out to get me and take my fishing pole away. These are some of the same arguments made for DDT, asbetos and the other better living through chemicals era.

Now lets look at the reference to "special interest groups". The NRA is a special interest group. Yes I support the NRA and I am a member of a special interest group. So the lable of special interest group is really abused. Special interest groups do help by making people aware of all the issues involved in a issue or subject and can serve as a checks and balances mechanism.

So it appears that special interest groups have a good purpose as well.

So lets leave the politicts out of this board. Obama really does not control science studies. Lobby for issues that are of concern to you but try to stick to the facts and leave the left wing/right wing crap to the politicians.

[MagikSmallie]

Well lets see, I used to be able to eat one Ohio river fish every 6 months, but now I think they may have changed that to one every two years. Mercury, PCBs and lead in Kentucky river fish, not real sure if I can eat my catch from there either. So lets just panic over any attempts to protect our environment. References to Obama and payback to left wing is just obsurd. These issues have been being studied for 10+ years. Lead contamination has been known to cause a multitude of problems in both humans and wildlfe since the 1930s. Developmental delays in children, nurological disorders. Believe it or not lead does contaminate water. My well is no longer drinkable.

I think I will use the steel weights as much as I can. Let those that are experts research the issues, avoid idiodic associations like Obama out to get me and take my fishing pole away. These are some of the same arguments made for DDT, asbetos and the other better living through chemicals era.

Now lets look at the reference to "special interest groups". The NRA is a special interest group. Yes I support the NRA and I am a member of a special interest group. So the lable of special interest group is really abused. Special interest groups do help by making people aware of all the issues involved in a issue or subject and can serve as a checks and balances mechanism.

So it appears that special interest groups have a good purpose as well.

So lets leave the politicts out of this board. Obama really does not control science studies. Lobby for issues that are of concern to you but try to stick to the facts and leave the left wing/right wing crap to the politicians.

Your right about contamination of the rivers however it isn't lead fishing tackle that is the culprit. The amount of contamination by lead fishing tackel is negligible when compared to other lead pollutants in rivers, lakes, and streams. If you ban the use of lead fishing tackle do you really think the PPM of lead in the Ohio River, KY River or any other body of water is going to be lower? C'mon! And I would love to leave politics out of this, however it's politics thats driving this! The Enviros complain about every little thing and obama must appease them with his puppet Lisa Jackson (EPA). And thats just the reality of the situation.

[GeoFisher]

You're KIDDING right.......the Obamunists are passing some of the most politically motivated environmental GARBAGE ever.

* This lead issue.
* Offshore and Inshore fishing regulations. VERY STRINGENT regulations that may very well lead to fishing bans.
* The single largest land grab in the history of the government.
* CAFE Standards that continue to keep the auto companies down.
* Offshore drilling ban.

So.........keep saying it is not an Obama Issue. While you're at it, hit the crak pipe a couple more times.

Later,

Geo

[MagikSmallie]

You're KIDDING right.......the Obamunists are passing some of the most politically motivated environmental GARBAGE ever.

* This lead issue.
* Offshore and Inshore fishing regulations. VERY STRINGENT regulations that may very well lead to fishing bans.
* The single largest land grab in the history of the government.
* CAFE Standards that continue to keep the auto companies down.
* Offshore drilling ban.

So.........keep saying it is not an Obama Issue. While you're at it, hit the crak pipe a couple more times.

Later,

Geo

Truth Be Told!

[smashdn]

Well lets see, I used to be able to eat one Ohio river fish every 6 months, but now I think they may have changed that to one every two years. Mercury, PCBs and lead in Kentucky river fish, not real sure if I can eat my catch from there either. So lets just panic over any attempts to protect our environment. References to Obama and payback to left wing is just obsurd. These issues have been being studied for 10+ years. Lead contamination has been known to cause a multitude of problems in both humans and wildlfe since the 1930s. Developmental delays in children, nurological disorders. Believe it or not lead does contaminate water. My well is no longer drinkable.

So what did that rant have to do with fishing tackle? Have you been dropping sinkers or lead shot down your well?

Lead is inert in the environment as we use it in tackle and lead shot. When ingested it reacts with acids in the stomach and dissolves to a small enough size to become soluable in the blood. That is when you have problems. Likewise lead vapor from leaded gasolines is of a small enough molecular size that is able to pass through the cellular membrane in the lungs.

Buy the hyped up, no-science backed, claims that the gov and anti-hunting/anti-fishing bunny huggers are pushing. Would we all be "safer" if lead ws banned? Sure. Same thing with mercury, arsenic, petroleum products, and coal. Can we afford to live as we do without them? I doubt it.

[Tim_T]

Well lets see, I used to be able to eat one Ohio river fish every 6 months, but now I think they may have changed that to one every two years. Mercury, PCBs and lead in Kentucky river fish, not real sure if I can eat my catch from there either.

Actually, you can eat more now than once was recomended. You can eat one meal a month of catfish out of the river or six in a year if they are over 21 inches. The reason for that is mercury, not lead fishing weights.