I am in the lure manufacturing business. Some of you know what company I'm with and have done business with me and some are posting good reports on catching nice stripers in the jumps both near surface and 20 to 40 ft down on the same lure. I would rather not say what company out of respect for Peter, APB and the rest. I will say that this year is the worst year we've had since we've been in business. It's so bad that I had to go back to construction for the first time in 4 yrs. That is not such a good move either because the construction business in my county is very bad. I hope that with the fall cool down sales will increase and take some pressure off. Last fall my wife nearly lost her job that she has had for 14 yrs. No such thing as seniority where she works. She survived the draw down and is still going strong thank goodness. Spring is on the way, it can only get better.