EPA At it AGAIN!! This time with Ethanol!

[MagikSmallie]

True HP is increased. I have a Chevy Flex Fuel truck...BUT the Mileage is reduced!

[kydonky]

yea that part *****, but I wish I had got the flex fuel motor. I could use the extra HP towing at times. But I think the closest e85 is Louisville

[Les Young]

Done. I wrote my own nice little letter all by myself. lol

[bg64vw]

ITS A CONSPIRACY!!! They know boaters obviously run out and buy only e20 fuel that will ruin their motors thus be disgruntled and easy recruits for Al-Qaeda!!! That EPA is a sly bunch

[Embrey]

e85's been out for quite some time...not sure how its hurting anything in a boat though. boat motor and a car motor aint much diferent and cars work fine with it with the right fuel line setup. id say thats all that would need changing

[ukbass]

e85's been out for quite some time...not sure how its hurting anything in a boat though. boat motor and a car motor aint much diferent and cars work fine with it with the right fuel line setup. id say thats all that would need changing

Embrey, up to 10% ethanol is ok for our outboards, but more is not good for them. This is from all of the outboard manufacturers. These motors are not the same as a car. If the only fuel we are able to buy has more than 10%, then we are in big trouble.

[Smallie282]

I can just see the owners of STA-BIL smiling from ear to ear now.. oh, by the way if you arent running sta-bil in your outboard already, better not plan on keeping it much longer.. Especially at 15% ethanol, if it does happen.

[HURRICANEBOB]

I don't care if they allow it, so long as its not MANDATED and well labeled.

My Honda manuals says Ethanol over 10% is a big no-no. Of course, if the EPA would like to buy me a new motor, well alllllrighty then.

[PRO V LE]

Ky. does not require ethanol labels on the pumps like other states do. Here on L Cumb most if not all marinas have ethanol free marine fuel at 89 octane the 93 octane will have it. Yes you will pay alot more for fuel on the water and I myself use the blue Stabil to fight the ethanol when using land based fuel as I have no way to know what is in it.

[Embrey]

Embrey, up to 10% ethanol is ok for our outboards, but more is not good for them. This is from all of the outboard manufacturers. These motors are not the same as a car. If the only fuel we are able to buy has more than 10%, then we are in big trouble.

i really dont see the difference. ive had or rebuilt about every type of motor ive ever seen,and cant see much difference other than that stuff breaks down fuel lines

[ukbass]

i really dont see the difference. ive had or rebuilt about every type of motor ive ever seen,and cant see much difference other than that stuff breaks down fuel lines

I'm no mechanic, but all you have to is read what Mercury, Yamaha, and Evinrude says. More than 10%, and our outboards will break down. They have been saying that forever.

[kydonky]

This is true. Ethanol over 10% voids warrenty and is not to be used in outboards. This is why the EPA delayed decision on a 20% mix. The lobby group has offered a compromize of 15%. EPA asked for more research on affects on motors. From what I understand the mix over 10% will be clearly labled. 10% mix is currenty labled with just a statement "contains ethanol".

I sent my comments that 10% ethanol needs to be redily available and mixes over 10% need to be clearly labled. That a decision should not be made without clear evidence the fuel will not harm engines.

If the ethanol producers want to sell more ethanol, perhaps they could help us convert motors to safely use thier fuel.

They are pushing hard on the issue. The TV commercials from "Poet" are PR spots for ethalol producers. I'm sure you all have seen them, they comment on Saudi oil, job outsourcing overseas and end with I'm a full time poet.