What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

[zx150]

Don that is great advice. I should have said something about that.

[know1]

That was quick thinking to reach inside the rod locker. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been so quick on my feet.

I'm kind of with HurricaneBob on this one. I'd favor having some kind of non-lethal self defense on me rather than a gun.

I don't want anyone stealing my stuff anymore than the next person, but I don't think I would feel very good about shooting someone over it. After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.

[MrSplitshot]

Read walkeraviator's post....then read it again. Spot on, IMO. Those were all things taught to me by my CCDW instructor in the class I took. Excellent points.

Let me also say that while there is no duty to retreat in KY, I believe in the rationale that it's a responsible thing to do if you can....before it comes to that last resort....which is "kill or be killed." If you can run, run. If you can't, shoot. Carry a gun to protect your life, not your stuff.

I will also echo Don's point about telling LEOs that you have a CCDW permit. I've had the same experience, and all have seemed appreciative that I told them. When you look at statistics and what we have to go through to get a CCDW permit with classes and criminal records checks, I feel that we aren't the people LEOs are worried about having guns. I'm pretty sure it got me out a traffic ticket one time last year for running a red light early one morning that was stuck on red. The LEO was a real prick to me, until I told him that I was a CCDW permit holder....he turned into my best buddy after that and told me to head on down the road. LOL

I'm not concerned about the government knowing that I have a gun or two and a CCDW permit, because I do not believe that there will be a point in my lifetime where the government of this country will attempt to come take American's guns away. I just don't. Best guess is that there are 350 million guns in this country, which averages out to about 1 gun per man, woman, and child. Gun laws will come and go. The most aggressive ones will be in the big cities, like they are now. Even Obamy aint dumb enough to attempt the trick of taking all of our guns away. Aint gonna happen.

Warning shots, as mentioned above, I am firmly against. For a number of reasons, I would never let someone know that I had a weapon unless I had already made the decision that my life was imminently in danger and I was justified in killing them to protect it.

Read this guys article that I stumbled across awhile back. I think he makes some logical points about self defense....he also goes into a lot of home defense talk. Interesting read. http://www.chuckhawks.com/self_defense.htm

[Embrey]

. After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.

it dang well should be

[know1]

it dang well should be

I don't believe so, but even if I did, there should be a trial.

[Devils Horse]

Don't carry a gun on my boat or anywhere else. Guess I could try to pinch an attacker with my long nose pliers, or threaten to cut his nails with my line clippers if it got down to it. Seriously, I've used all kinds of ramps at all times of the day and night, and never had a problem.

Did casually tell a couple of young men I just got out of Eddyville one morning about 3:30 am at the Walnut Creek ramp on Barren. They moved on along so fast I couldn't tell if they were up to no good or not.

I got a 9mm by my bed (in case the wife tries to take advantage of me) and that's it.

[Tim_T]

That is only half of it , If you shoot some one in self defense the wife or parent brother or who ever of the dead party can sue you for wrongful death. They most likely will not win the case but how many thousands of dollars is it going to cost you to get out of it. My cousin said it best the other day he said any body can go down to the court house and file any charge on you and you have to prove your innocence that is just not right in my book they need to re wright that law or hold up there end of it any way there end is if you state false witness you can be charged for contemp to court and if there was a just law suit you should be able to burn there @$$ for filling false witnes toward you and they should do time in jail for it as well.

That has been changed with the castle doctrine law. They cannot file suit now.

[Catfish Bob]

Wow! That is some crazy stuff!

I thought you were going to offer them some fish you caught'...lol Good thinking on acting like you may be packing.


I carry my ol .22 on the boat. Not so much for people protection but to fight off any critters trying to get in the boat.
In my truck is where I'm packing the real heat.

[jwp]

Great, well-written information. Thanks.

[HURRICANEBOB]

Geo,

Not an expert. I'd recommed a non-lethal form. A pair of mace cans and a night watchmans billy club on a wrist tether ought do the trick. You don't want to defend yourself only to have to defend yourself in the courts. Punks do sometimes have lawyers.

Shot gun I'd steer clear of because if they close on you quick you may not have time to deploy it. And worse, if they close quick, they may end up in possession of the shotgun you planned for your defense. Handgun, means permits, and what happens if a stray round hits an unintended target? From what I've seen of you, you'd have a harder time living with that than with a couple punks getting a rod or 2.

Last thought, for what it's worth. Refuse to use selected ramps unless you are accompanied by a buddy. Or a tactic I have used, if a friend can't go, sometimes I'll offer a beer and a burger if they just meet me at the ramp for ramp out, then when that's done, its off to brewski land and burger time.

At any rate, agree with the deisre for protection. And sorry to hear the 2 smucks gave you a reason for concern. Stay cool, and as usual as you always do, just logic thru it.

[Hershey102]

A LE officer is not going to look in your tackle box unless you give him a reason to. The livewell perhaps, but not a tackle box. Alone on a ramp late at night, the cavalry is not coming to your rescue.

I solo backpack in some very remote hollows in KY and sleep a whole lot better with a firearm in the tent. There's an old adage that asks, "Would you rather face twelve jurors or six pall bearers"?

[flyfish]

Always double tap and ask questions later.