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    Smile Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    one other thought. We have the right to own firearms. But while defending life and limb, you hit an innocent bysytander, they have the right to sue you for every dime you have or hope to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    one other thought. We have the right to own firearms. But while defending life and limb, you hit an innocent bysytander, they have the right to sue you for every dime you have or hope to get.
    That is only half of it , If you shoot some one in self defense the wife or parent brother or who ever of the dead party can sue you for wrongful death. They most likely will not win the case but how many thousands of dollars is it going to cost you to get out of it. My cousin said it best the other day he said any body can go down to the court house and file any charge on you and you have to prove your innocence that is just not right in my book they need to re wright that law or hold up there end of it any way there end is if you state false witness you can be charged for contemp to court and if there was a just law suit you should be able to burn there @$$ for filling false witnes toward you and they should do time in jail for it as well.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Some great points and info on this thread. I'm sure all of you CCDW Permit holders know this but for others that don't have one yet.... if you get stopped by law enforcement make sure you tell them you are a CCDW holder and let them know if you have a weapon with you or not and if you do tell them where it is.

    I have been stopped twice since I have had mine and both officers actually said thanks. I didn't have anything on me or in the vehicle at the time.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Don that is great advice. I should have said something about that.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    That was quick thinking to reach inside the rod locker. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been so quick on my feet.

    I'm kind of with HurricaneBob on this one. I'd favor having some kind of non-lethal self defense on me rather than a gun.

    I don't want anyone stealing my stuff anymore than the next person, but I don't think I would feel very good about shooting someone over it. After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Read walkeraviator's post....then read it again. Spot on, IMO. Those were all things taught to me by my CCDW instructor in the class I took. Excellent points.

    Let me also say that while there is no duty to retreat in KY, I believe in the rationale that it's a responsible thing to do if you can....before it comes to that last resort....which is "kill or be killed." If you can run, run. If you can't, shoot. Carry a gun to protect your life, not your stuff.

    I will also echo Don's point about telling LEOs that you have a CCDW permit. I've had the same experience, and all have seemed appreciative that I told them. When you look at statistics and what we have to go through to get a CCDW permit with classes and criminal records checks, I feel that we aren't the people LEOs are worried about having guns. I'm pretty sure it got me out a traffic ticket one time last year for running a red light early one morning that was stuck on red. The LEO was a real prick to me, until I told him that I was a CCDW permit holder....he turned into my best buddy after that and told me to head on down the road. LOL

    I'm not concerned about the government knowing that I have a gun or two and a CCDW permit, because I do not believe that there will be a point in my lifetime where the government of this country will attempt to come take American's guns away. I just don't. Best guess is that there are 350 million guns in this country, which averages out to about 1 gun per man, woman, and child. Gun laws will come and go. The most aggressive ones will be in the big cities, like they are now. Even Obamy aint dumb enough to attempt the trick of taking all of our guns away. Aint gonna happen.

    Warning shots, as mentioned above, I am firmly against. For a number of reasons, I would never let someone know that I had a weapon unless I had already made the decision that my life was imminently in danger and I was justified in killing them to protect it.

    Read this guys article that I stumbled across awhile back. I think he makes some logical points about self defense....he also goes into a lot of home defense talk. Interesting read. http://www.chuckhawks.com/self_defense.htm

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    . After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.
    it dang well should be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embrey View Post
    it dang well should be
    I don't believe so, but even if I did, there should be a trial.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Don't carry a gun on my boat or anywhere else. Guess I could try to pinch an attacker with my long nose pliers, or threaten to cut his nails with my line clippers if it got down to it. Seriously, I've used all kinds of ramps at all times of the day and night, and never had a problem.

    Did casually tell a couple of young men I just got out of Eddyville one morning about 3:30 am at the Walnut Creek ramp on Barren. They moved on along so fast I couldn't tell if they were up to no good or not.

    I got a 9mm by my bed (in case the wife tries to take advantage of me) and that's it.

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    40 Glock at home and a 9mm semi-auto cheap knockoff in boat. Hope I never have to use either one. But I guess if they can drag my ass off to shoot people I don't know who ain't messing with me I can **** sure shoot at somebody who is. right to carry is bullchit

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    Re: What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

    Quote Originally Posted by olgreenboat View Post
    That is only half of it , If you shoot some one in self defense the wife or parent brother or who ever of the dead party can sue you for wrongful death. They most likely will not win the case but how many thousands of dollars is it going to cost you to get out of it. My cousin said it best the other day he said any body can go down to the court house and file any charge on you and you have to prove your innocence that is just not right in my book they need to re wright that law or hold up there end of it any way there end is if you state false witness you can be charged for contemp to court and if there was a just law suit you should be able to burn there @$$ for filling false witnes toward you and they should do time in jail for it as well.

    That has been changed with the castle doctrine law. They cannot file suit now.

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