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    Re: need your opinion

    Well it looks like I`m going to give it a shot. Wife wants me out of this state so bad for some reason that shetold me tonight that for me to figure how much it would take to go where ever I want and stay the summer trying to make a go of it,,that`ll be another good 10.000 extra so I wouldn`t have to get into the 30k I`m getting to walk away. HMMMMM
    SHE MUST HAVE SOMEBODY READY TO MOVE IN OR SOMETHING,, wonder where she`s getting all this cash at. She wants me gone bad,,,lol should hold out for a new Ranger or something. But I`ll give it a shot! Find me a outdoorize woman, one that likes to fish,drive a truck and I`ll teach her to drive my boat. Nothing like a burly woman..lol But if it don`t work,,,well I would have had a great last vacation. What I really like to do is go to Ely in the spring and summer,,and come back here and do my boat biz in the winter,,thats my busy time anyway,,But scared to death to try but look out people the smelly hillbilly is heading your way,,,this is a warning

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    Here is my 2 cents...if this is what you want to do and you have the means to do it...then go for it. But let me tell you something, I know the guide business and if you go up there and set your rates at half the going rate of the other guides, plan on coming home because those ol home boys there that make their living guiding will ensure you fail. While there you might want to put up some concertina wire around your motor home and boat and get a big nasty watch dog. It is one thing to come into a rural area and compete for guide business but it is another to come into a rural area and try to compete by taking the bread out of the local folks families mouths by undercutting the established going rate for a guide. You will only as successful as a guide as your reputation is good and that is especially true of the reputation you build with the locals....and especially the local guides...you earn that respect by proving yourself to be a good, professional guide, providing a professional service....building a successful guide service is not done overnight and it certainly is not done by alienating the folks you are gonna be living and working around.

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    heres an option you may want to consider.If you're truck is fairly good, and you will be alone, maybe buy a used travel trailer trailer, next search for campgrounds that are looking for caretakers or hosts. They usually give you free camp sites, and electricity. Many of them are on lakes.So that will help as far as living space.We were going to do that, but the engine in the diesel truck went bad. We had a few places that even paid a small wage, but you needed to work 7 days a week, you dont want that kind of set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStewart View Post
    Here is my 2 cents...if this is what you want to do and you have the means to do it...then go for it. But let me tell you something, I know the guide business and if you go up there and set your rates at half the going rate of the other guides, plan on coming home because those ol home boys there that make their living guiding will ensure you fail. While there you might want to put up some concertina wire around your motor home and boat and get a big nasty watch dog. It is one thing to come into a rural area and compete for guide business but it is another to come into a rural area and try to compete by taking the bread out of the local folks families mouths by undercutting the established going rate for a guide. You will only as successful as a guide as your reputation is good and that is especially true of the reputation you build with the locals....and especially the local guides...you earn that respect by proving yourself to be a good, professional guide, providing a professional service....building a successful guide service is not done overnight and it certainly is not done by alienating the folks you are gonna be living and working around.
    Dave,,,you are perfetly right, and I understand what you are saying. And thanks thats one of the things that I would have thought about. Thats way I put this post on,,And when someone gives a comment like yours,,I do take what you say has trying to help..I feel like alot people think that I think I can just go up there and BAM I`m a guide...no thats not my thinking. I`m taking about starting out very small. Takeing time to talk to resort owner or owners and lets not say guide,,i know what I want to say but can`t figure out how,,lets put it this way,,I`d work for the resorts not as a guide but as a person(empoyee) to show their customers around the lake or lakes to give them a start and Idea where to start fishing on their own. Lake 101 so to speak. I`m planning on fishing everyday relearning the lakes I know very well,,been 5 yrs and got to relearn them. Time on the water,,what esle do i have to do by myself..lol I got to get my foot in the frist. But I might try and get a resort to make a deal with me on a cabin to stay in for the season for a real good rate and take his people out for them show them are and when I`m not doing that help around the place with boat repairs...be kinda a in house guide/dock boy..that why I get interduced to all kinds of people. And if this all don`t work out,,,it will be one hell of a nice vacation! Like I said,,,she`s paying for this to get me gone...lol But I know it will take time. Alot of work and time on the water and a few free trips to show what Ican do,,I just got to give it a shot,,start real small andwork my way up,,not going to get rich,,just want to live and enjoy life for awhile..Thanks Dave you made me think

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemorecast56 View Post
    Dave,,,you are perfetly right, and I understand what you are saying. And thanks thats one of the things that I would have thought about. Thats way I put this post on,,And when someone gives a comment like yours,,I do take what you say has trying to help..I feel like alot people think that I think I can just go up there and BAM I`m a guide...no thats not my thinking. I`m taking about starting out very small. Takeing time to talk to resort owner or owners and lets not say guide,,i know what I want to say but can`t figure out how,,lets put it this way,,I`d work for the resorts not as a guide but as a person(empoyee) to show their customers around the lake or lakes to give them a start and Idea where to start fishing on their own. Lake 101 so to speak. I`m planning on fishing everyday relearning the lakes I know very well,,been 5 yrs and got to relearn them. Time on the water,,what esle do i have to do by myself..lol I got to get my foot in the frist. But I might try and get a resort to make a deal with me on a cabin to stay in for the season for a real good rate and take his people out for them show them are and when I`m not doing that help around the place with boat repairs...be kinda a in house guide/dock boy..that why I get interduced to all kinds of people. And if this all don`t work out,,,it will be one hell of a nice vacation! Like I said,,,she`s paying for this to get me gone...lol But I know it will take time. Alot of work and time on the water and a few free trips to show what Ican do,,I just got to give it a shot,,start real small andwork my way up,,not going to get rich,,just want to live and enjoy life for awhile..Thanks Dave you made me think
    One thing is for sure Doug...no guide is ever gonna get rich from guiding...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStewart View Post
    One thing is for sure Doug...no guide is ever gonna get rich from guiding...LOL
    Heck Dave I'll take it a step farther....I'm not gonna get rich woking with Systems Integration either but I bet you love your job alot more than I love mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Heck Dave I'll take it a step farther....I'm not gonna get rich woking with Systems Integration either but I bet you love your job alot more than I love mine.
    For a man that has not worked since March 9, 2007 due to illness, I would LOVE to have a fulltime job because that would mean my doctor has released me and I am on my way to getting better. No matter what your job is, love it or hate it, somebody has it worse than you

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    Quote Originally Posted by elnutsmalljaws View Post
    For a man that has not worked since March 9, 2007 due to illness, I would LOVE to have a fulltime job because that would mean my doctor has released me and I am on my way to getting better. No matter what your job is, love it or hate it, somebody has it worse than you
    Aww man I was just playing around. Your right someone has it worse than all of us. I'm happy to wake up and see another day!

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    Given Dave Stewarts advice, take that a step further, and contact some local guides and see if they could use some help in peak season. Join with them rather then compete against them. Don't have to be out there by yourself, while learning the lakes, and learning the local folks way of doing things. Be an ally, rather than viewed as a competitor.

    Combine boat repair with that. Even as a part time gig, some folks will need things you can do.

    Offer to teach classes on boat repair. Teach folks to do carpeting on boats. You'd be surprised how many folks will hire you after attending class and figuring out they don't have the tools, time, or sauve to do it themselves.

    And working for a resort, getting a constant paycheck, while learning the lakes, and learning to work with the guides sounds like a win-win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Aww man I was just playing around. Your right someone has it worse than all of us. I'm happy to wake up and see another day!
    As a public service, I'll volunteer to be the guy we all agree has the most room for improvement.

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    You're going through a tough time right now, get an apratment and take a few months to get your head straight. After the spring thaw take 5k and go up there for a couple of months, you're never going to figure it out from here. You might be able to get hooked up with some kind of job while you establish relationships and feel it all out.

    Few things'll flatten the tires on your buggy quicker than a divorce. I feel for you brother.

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    Re: need your opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    Given Dave Stewarts advice, take that a step further, and contact some local guides and see if they could use some help in peak season. Join with them rather then compete against them. Don't have to be out there by yourself, while learning the lakes, and learning the local folks way of doing things. Be an ally, rather than viewed as a competitor.

    Combine boat repair with that. Even as a part time gig, some folks will need things you can do.

    Offer to teach classes on boat repair. Teach folks to do carpeting on boats. You'd be surprised how many folks will hire you after attending class and figuring out they don't have the tools, time, or sauve to do it themselves.

    And working for a resort, getting a constant paycheck, while learning the lakes, and learning to work with the guides sounds like a win-win.

    Folks, we have a winner!!

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