Airport Security

[zx150]

If that guy is that bent out a shape about that take the train or Greyhound. I would strip all the way down and it would not bother me. The last time I flew, I got searched. I thanked the guy for doing his job of keeping me safe and you could almost knock the guy over. He could not believe someone would thank him.

[DJD]

Been recently patted down at Bluegrass Airport...no biggie. Had shoes sniffed or whatever they do as well....no biggie. I agree make it safe but in this goofy world of feelings and political correctness we have to toss common sense out the window.

[kygorski]

Put these idiots on a no fly list!Heck they can strip search me any time,and pass me through explosive sniffers,metal detectors, what ever. But for a trip of less than 600 miles I'll drive.

[Catfish Bob]

What about children? Should the TSA be able to feel up your kids?

Whats next? Body scanners/ pat downs at football games, the mall?

It is a thing called Civil Liberties.

You think the people of any other non TERRORIST SCARED nations would put up with this? You think their going to have pat downs and body scanners in Israel?
Non American muslims get scanned and patted. But muslim women are fighting to not even have to move their bercha/Vail! hypocrisy

What if they do find a bomb shoved up someones butt? Will we all be subject to full cavity searches?


Underwear bomber! lol Do you believe the UNDERWEAR BOMBER story?
To me their is not a more hilarious title than underwear bomber.
Some dude lit his balls on fire because he hates our freedoms that much. lol
hoax, all the info is online proving how this was all set up to push for more security. Don't take my word go look for yourself.

If your so afraid to fly due to so called terrorism, and think we should all put aside our civil liberties to fly.....Well just maybe your the ones that shouldn't fly and take a bus!

Just because some people are afraid of the boogey men, do all the others of us have to sit on the sideline watching the system of the beast takeover

Body scanners,if I remember correctly put off 10x more radiation than the average X-ray machine.
Hello, not only are we being scanned but were also being radiated.

[Catfish Bob]

Edit....
Non muslim, Americans get scanned and patted. But American muslim women are fighting to not even have to move their bercha/Vail! hypocrisy

[know1]

I just think of the TSA as my friends with benefits

It's disappointing they never call the next day, though.

In all seriousness, I fall a bit on the other side with this one. I think the government is starting to overstep its bounds here.

I also wonder if the real reason that we're now being subjected to these scanners is because some government official's buddy has some big government contract to produce them (yes, I think our government is that corrupt)

[apb]

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In all seriousness, I fall a bit on the other side with this one. I think the government is starting to overstep its bounds here.

I also wonder if the real reason that we're now being subjected to these scanners is because some government official's buddy has some big government contract to produce them (yes, I think our government is that corrupt)

Agree with this. I also wonder how much of this is really for show. Ie., look, we are doing all that we can. Don't they have dogs that can sniff out explosives and other stuff? Metal detectors that can find metal objects. Does a TSA grope really do better than those?

Andrew

[MrSplitshot]

Agree with this. I also wonder how much of this is really for show. Ie., look, we are doing all that we can. Don't they have dogs that can sniff out explosives and other stuff? Metal detectors that can find metal objects. Does a TSA grope really do better than those?

Andrew

That's fair. Maybe it is for show...showing terrorists that we are going to make it as difficult for them as possible to get through security with something they could use to hijack or blow up a plane....showing passengers that their safety is top priority. (The cynical side in me also says that if that's the case, we need to be equally vigilant in addressing pilot training, flight hours, airport markings, equipment maintenance, etc.)

We do know that terrorists are going to keep trying to come up with ways to get past security. Airports and Law Enforcement Agencies all over the world keep catching these people before they can do something stupid, because of the increased focus on security. You know they want to blow up planes. We need to stay ahead of them. Unfortunately, one little tiny subsection of people that want to do harm will cause the entire flying population to be screened thoroughly, and by methods that many won't like.

If the dude that tried to light his Fruit of the Looms on fire and blow up a plane last Christmas had succeeded, the public clamor to the government would have been: "How could you let this happen? How could you not catch this? Isn't there something else you could have done?"

If there is a legitimate radiation issue, then I agree that the situation becomes a bit different. However, remember all of those studies that said prolonged cell phone usage could cause brain tumors? I think you can make a case that any kind of wave-emitting device poses a risk, but to what degree? Everything has risk. I've read that you would have to go through the scanner 1000 times to equal 1 standard chest x-ray from your doctor....and that you are exposed to more radiation from the flight itself than the body scanners. http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/03/advanced...radiation.html Either it's a lie or it's a truth...all you can do is believe the research or not. The same people that aren't willing to risk the 1 in 100,000,000 chance of problems from radiation, are willing to risk flying on a plane where they have no control over their destiny? That's a cop out.

I find some of the articles interesting where the Israelis say that the body scanners are useless. The body scanners are used to detect secondary non-metallic threats that the metal detectors don't pick up. However, the Israelis say that you can get enough explosives to bring down a 747 past the scanner if you know how. That's more concerning to me than worrying about civil liberties or radiation. They argue that a mixture of behavioral profiling and a "Trusted Traveler" system would be more effective. This is where some kind of "Fast Pass" type card is applied for and issued to travelers that go through extensive background checks so that they don't go through as extensive security checks at the airport....leaving more time to do thorough behavioral profiling and explosive sniffing screens on those that don't have the card. Interesting theory. Israel doesn't use the body mapping scanners. When it comes down to some kind of ID Card or Passport, I still wonder how easily that could be counterfeited/stolen/misused in this country...but it's obviously something the Israelis believe in, and lord knows they see their fair share of terrorists.

But if the TSA aborted the scanners and went to a trusted traveller ID card right now, the same people complaining about civil liberties being infringed would be up in arms about having to register with the government to get a card or succumb to a background check to fly..."Just another way the Government is trying to keep tabs on me!" Then, when they didn't, they would complain because they have to go through screens at the airport.

Maybe I'm a sheep, but I just don't believe that the government is trying to brainwash me, micro-chip me, track my every move, take my guns away, and strip me of all my certain inalienable rights. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

[Catfish Bob]

alright,, I give up.
I'm wrong, you all win.

peace

[peter]

Agree with this. I also wonder how much of this is really for show. Ie., look, we are doing all that we can. Don't they have dogs that can sniff out explosives and other stuff? Metal detectors that can find metal objects. Does a TSA grope really do better than those?

Andrew

Maybe somebody is making a nice dollar off those high tech scanner machines? I doubt they are free and there is probably zero competition. Isn't it always about the dollar once you drill all the way down.

Has anybody in this thread had the "extended" as they call it pat down performed on them. I saw some of it on the news and it looked a little weird to me.

The Israeli have well trained agents that interview people as they are standing in line and moving through the airport.

[Tim_T]

What about children? Should the TSA be able to feel up your kids?

Whats next? Body scanners/ pat downs at football games, the mall?

It is a thing called Civil Liberties.

You think the people of any other non TERRORIST SCARED nations would put up with this? You think their going to have pat downs and body scanners in Israel?
Non American muslims get scanned and patted. But muslim women are fighting to not even have to move their bercha/Vail! hypocrisy

What if they do find a bomb shoved up someones butt? Will we all be subject to full cavity searches?


Underwear bomber! lol Do you believe the UNDERWEAR BOMBER story?
To me their is not a more hilarious title than underwear bomber.
Some dude lit his balls on fire because he hates our freedoms that much. lol
hoax, all the info is online proving how this was all set up to push for more security. Don't take my word go look for yourself.

If your so afraid to fly due to so called terrorism, and think we should all put aside our civil liberties to fly.....Well just maybe your the ones that shouldn't fly and take a bus!

Just because some people are afraid of the boogey men, do all the others of us have to sit on the sideline watching the system of the beast takeover

Body scanners,if I remember correctly put off 10x more radiation than the average X-ray machine.
Hello, not only are we being scanned but were also being radiated.

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[Catfish Bob]

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"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety


Imagine the German citizens during the Holocaust....
Is that likely how American citizens will be viewed in future history? A bunch of brainwashed sheep afraid to look past the propaganda to the other side of the story.

Peace