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    Re: Don't ask Don't Tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Your post is right out of the same selective information playbook the libs you vote for use.

    You forgot to mention the survey found 12% said they would not want to stay in the military if don't ask was repealed. That's 240,000 plus according to the article you cite. Wonder if that's more than the total number of gays in the military?
    With "Don't ask" in place, I guess we'll never know, will we?
    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    You also forgot to mention the survey did not ask whether those in the armed forces support repealing don't ask. If your heroes'd had the guts to ask that question, it would've come out just exactly like Mark said...70% against. Don't think so? Care to place a small wager? Bet I can dig up some other surveys...but it'll cost you.

    You also forgot to put the statistics to the combat troops (the ones who actually have to spend time in a foxhole with each other) who are opposed to repealing it. The number quoted was 40 to 60% against. A pretty big variance, and compelling evidence your Dem heroes are playing politics with the numbers.
    I didn't "forget" to post anything. I didn't see information indicating 70% were against repealing it, so I didn't post it. If you have it, go ahead and post it. Or don't, I don't care, but I'm not going to play games with you over it. And excuse the hell out of me for not actually copying into my post the stats on the combat troops, but I did make reference to them, and even acknowledged that that was a valid point!
    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    The point is made in the article you cite that it probably isn't a good time to screw around with don't ask right now. You think now is a good time to throw a curve at the combat troops in Afghanistan in the name of a misguided social issue? Can't wait for you to rationalize that one for me.
    That may be a good point. Not having been in the military myself, I can't say. But it seems to me that to say that it's going to cause such major disruption doesn't give our men and women in uniform enough credit. One thing I do know is they're highly trained, and able to plan and carry out highly complex and risky military operations. Given that, it seems to me that implementing a change like this wouldn't be all that big a deal for them. But maybe it would be. And I have nothing to "rationalize," since I never said it needed to be repealed right now. I simply pointed out one argument in favor of doing it sooner rather than later. If the arguments for doing it later outweigh that, then so be it.

    Parker, everybody who's following this debate knows it was implemented by Bill Clinton, to avoid an outright ban on gays serving in the military. Did YOU know that he now regrets it?
    Last edited by RoadToad; 12-04-2010 at 11:21 AM.

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