Justice over Siva

[mhall]

Mark, the reason for the turnover numbers is simple, Siva often times tries to do to much. He is still learning. Justice will not have that problem because he is not athletic enough to do to much right now.

Plus, I don't count Siva as a true sophomore because he was injured some last season and didn't get much playing time because of Pitino's incredible infatuation with Edgar Sosa.

I don't know Tim, I think your reaching a bit, but I'll give you one thing Ricky Poo was in love with Edgar, lol. I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad that individual is now GONE!

[pontooner]

I haven't watched enough of Louisvilles games to know for sure but with Justice being the backup point guard and going up against the other teams backup point guard and other subs that it might make his numbers and him look a little better than they really are. Again I haven't watched enough to know if that's the case or not.


With all that said I wouldn't mess with a good thing. They are 8-0, playing good D so I wouldn't think about making a change unless things started really going down hill.

[Fishin is life]

College isn't like the NBA...just because you are a backup doesn't mean you're playing against the other teams backups....While substitution patterns are pretty regular in the NBA, college coaches often get completely out of sync with the other team.....and often if a backup is playing well he'll get the starters minutes....and 5 TO's in 8 games is a great number for a point guard.....even if he is only playing 17 or so minutes a game.....I'll take a slightly less athletic point guard who takes care of the ball and doesn't give the other team points off TO's anyday over a guy who will make the highlight reels and turn it over 5 times a game....an elite team at any level has 2 things....a point guard that knows their roll, and it's usually not scoring (ie Rondo, Derek Fisher) and a guy who does all the dirty work and the small things....

[pontooner]

College isn't like the NBA...just because you are a backup doesn't mean you're playing against the other teams backups....While substitution patterns are pretty regular in the NBA, college coaches often get completely out of sync with the other team.....and often if a backup is playing well he'll get the starters minutes....and 5 TO's in 8 games is a great number for a point guard.....even if he is only playing 17 or so minutes a game.....I'll take a slightly less athletic point guard who takes care of the ball and doesn't give the other team points off TO's anyday over a guy who will make the highlight reels and turn it over 5 times a game....an elite team at any level has 2 things....a point guard that knows their roll, and it's usually not scoring (ie Rondo, Derek Fisher) and a guy who does all the dirty work and the small things....

Just curious what % of his minutes are coming at the end of games against the other teams subs because looking at the games Louisville has played most haven't been too close.

I guess we'll see what he's got once Big East conference play starts.

[mhall]

Just curious what % of his minutes are coming at the end of games against the other teams subs because looking at the games Louisville has played most haven't been too close.

I guess we'll see what he's got once Big East conference play starts.

Pontooner, Justice has been playing against the exact same competition as Siva and during heated moments during games to. Louisville up till now has played a weak schedule but I'm still comparing stats to stats and using Justice's #'s saying it was against the scrubs at the end of the games is quite false. Louisville has three quality wins, Butler, Marshall and now UNLV. They play Drexel tonight and they are a 6 and 1 team that may give UofL fits, we'll see.

What I'm saying is I've watched every game this year and Justice is going head to head against the same guys that Siva is and for me his numbers are in the ball park with MUCH less in the way of giving the ball back to the other team. Peyton is a good player and a very likable young man. He will be a much more productive guard and valuable to the team if he would just calm down, not worry about points and protect the basketball. He needs to wrk on his ball handeling skills, very shakey at times.

[zx150]

Easy fellas we are all for the same team. If Ricky P would have played Siva more last year this would not be a problem. I like them both. I would play Siva as much as possible, I think he can take us farther when he is in his a little more experienced.

With that said I like Justice. With a little more experience he is going to be a great ball player. Who ever said he is going to be a great 4 year guard hit the nail on the head.