12 people gunned down including a Congresswoman......

[kygorski]

what was foolish? he was a kook? He had an agenda? this nut had more agendas than any 5 nuts ought to have.And if you think the phrase "dont retreat reload" wouldn't have any affect on a wacko, maybe you shouldn't consider owning a lethal weapon.

[GeoFisher]

what was foolish? he was a kook? He had an agenda? this nut had more agendas than any 5 nuts ought to have.And if you think the phrase "dont retreat reload" wouldn't have any affect on a wacko, maybe you shouldn't consider owning a lethal weapon.

SO.......you think we should BAN the free speech?? The speech didn't make him kill those folks......him being CRAZY made him kill those folks.

I LOVE how you guys are very selective with what "free" speech you're willing to ban. It is NOT free speech to burn our flag. It is NOT free speech to desecrate our GOD, it is NOT free speech to create a **** statue of Jesus. It is NOT free speech. Make up your MIND and BAN it all or BAN NONE. You guys make me SICK.

I don't want a Hugo Chavez style Press here, I don't WANT a Tianniman Square style press here....I DON'T want a Stalin style PRESS HERE. I don't WANT an Iranian style PRESS here.

Be CAREFUL what you wish for.

[kygorski]

Did I ever in my original post say any thing about rights and banning anything? You began by saying it was the mexican cartel and white nosed banditos involved. I dont care what anyone says or believes,I'm not against free speech, the right to bear arms, or worship anything or anyone you want. Its still a free country, and I hate either left or right wingers who want it to change.

[GeoFisher]

Did I ever in my original post say any thing about rights and banning anything? You began by saying it was the mexican cartel and white nosed banditos involved. I dont care what anyone says or believes,I'm not against free speech, the right to bear arms, or worship anything or anyone you want. Its still a free country, and I hate either left or right wingers who want it to change.

NO I didn't...........I posted that I HOPE that is was not related, due to the crapstorm that would follow.

[kydonky]

All of these news sources and people are speculating that his fellow was "mentally ill" "mentally unstable".

This is just a bunch of cow dung to think that this fellow is mentally ill. He planned this for a long time and most profesionals would agree that he would have had periods of lucid thought and that if he were to claim insanity plea the planning and effort to do this and not just an inpulse he could not control would indicate he was lucid.

This fellow was not necessarily "mentally Ill"

He is "Mentally Evil" like Manson

[GeoFisher]

All of these news sources and people are speculating that his fellow was "mentally ill" "mentally unstable".

This is just a bunch of cow dung to think that this fellow is mentally ill. He planned this for a long time and most profesionals would agree that he would have had periods of lucid thought and that if he were to claim insanity plea the planning and effort to do this and not just an inpulse he could not control would indicate he was lucid.

This fellow was not necessarily "mentally Ill"

He is "Mentally Evil" like Manson

Well I definitely agree with you there. There is a lot of this that was premeditated......but that doesn't change the fact that I think he was mentally ILL.

And just to be clear.......even if he is unstable, I still think he should get the chair or needle or chamber......how ever the HELL Arizona chooses to execute this SOB.

[GeoFisher]

It looks like there may be evidence that this has been in the planning stage since 2007......HM.....I guess you can blame that on Palin and Beck.......were they EVEN in the picture then??

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/09/...ex.html?hpt=T1

[Chubminnow]

In my first post on this thread I wrote that I was glad the nimrod didn't pull the trigger on himself, and that I was glad he was apprehended ASAP. Now that I've been thinking about it...how much will it cost Arizona to keep this idiot behind bars until....until???? Until he's put to death? How long will that be? I say put him to death one day this week...or maybe wait until next weekend on Saturday about the same time he committed this senseless act...ain't no need to support this nimrod any longer than necessary.

[DJD]

You can bet they will have this turd on suicide watch 24/7. Think he will have a book deal while sitting in prison for the next 20 years? I'm just saying....

[walkeraviator]

In my first post on this thread I wrote that I was glad the nimrod didn't pull the trigger on himself, and that I was glad he was apprehended ASAP. Now that I've been thinking about it...how much will it cost Arizona to keep this idiot behind bars until....until???? Until he's put to death? How long will that be? I say put him to death one day this week...or maybe wait until next weekend on Saturday about the same time he committed this senseless act...ain't no need to support this nimrod any longer than necessary.

Agreed. He shouldnt be cared for any longer than is necassary. However, he is entitled to a fair trial first by our constitution. So stop delaying and start the trial just as soon as the the prosecutor is ready. And dont delay the appeals process. As soon as he is found guilty (i still believe in innocent until proven guilty, even when everyone knows for fact he did it)... schedule his execution the next day. Dont spend 20 years wasting tax money dragging out the appeals process...get his trial and all of his appeals out of the way and he could be executed by April if they didnt drag their feet so much...

But again... he has constitutional rights no matter how evil he is.

[kygorski]

No.no no no. In a sane world that would be the case.But this is america remember! First will be the battle over who trys him, where several lawyers will become talking heads, then the punishment phase, where more lawyers and kooks will become involved. The lawyers could be appointed and be unknowns till thr media starts the interviews, and finally it gets to be a drag, and then iyt6s over maybe. What about Hinckly, sirhan sirhan, still alive and kicking. We dont need to study anymore nut jobs. Funny thing is, the many folks talking about the rights of fetuses, will be clammoring for this guy to be executed.What a wonderfull country! Hang him with a bungie cord till death.

[Chubminnow]

He is entitled to a fair trial first by our constitution. As soon as he is found guilty (i still believe in innocent until proven guilty, even when everyone knows for fact he did it)... schedule his execution the next day. Dont spend 20 years wasting tax money dragging out the appeals process...get his trial and all of his appeals out of the way and he could be executed by April if they didnt drag their feet so much...

But again... he has constitutional rights no matter how evil he is.

I hear what you're you're saying....but in some cases (LOTS of cases), I don't buy that innocent until proven guilty gig, I just don't....ESPECIALLY in this case....even if they could execute him by April that would still be to long of a period of time and waste of tax payer money in my opinion. The people he killed didn't get any time period what so ever before they were excecuted. I say do it one day this week, like This weekend on Saturday at the same time he committed the act.

From what I'm hearing the congresswoman is responsive....man I hope she comes out of this A-OK in a non-vegatative state. I hope her quality of life will be excellent (considering).