Knot Wars

[Todd2]

I have the best luck with a double clinch for fluoro. Loop thru the tie twice, keeping them parallel and then just finish like a normal clinch. I have tried a double eugene bend but it doesn't seem as consistent, imo.

[elnutsmalljaws]

Personally I have never had a problem with the Palomar on Flouro, Mono or Braid. I tie the same knot on my FNF 3-way set up and that is Braid to swivel, Flouro to swivel and Flouro to jig and NEVER had one single knot problem. I rarely use Mono because I don't fish topwater that much but when I did, still never had a problem with the Palomar knot. I thin it is the way you tie the knot, you have to make sure it is MOIST when cinching down, I don't cinch too fast as to make more heat build up in the knot plus make sure it is on top of the eye of the jig an not down around the bottomof the eye of the jig when cinching down.

[FlyLie]

Personally I have never had a problem with the Palomar on Flouro, Mono or Braid. I tie the same knot on my FNF 3-way set up and that is Braid to swivel, Flouro to swivel and Flouro to jig and NEVER had one single knot problem. I rarely use Mono because I don't fish topwater that much but when I did, still never had a problem with the Palomar knot. I thin it is the way you tie the knot, you have to make sure it is MOIST when cinching down, I don't cinch too fast as to make more heat build up in the knot plus make sure it is on top of the eye of the jig an not down around the bottomof the eye of the jig when cinching down.

I agree with the MAN. Palomar is my go to knot when ever I can use it. Never had a problem with it. Only restrictions are when the lure is TOO LARGE to pass through the loop, or to large to pass through the eye of a small FF midge.

But that is not to say an old man can't learn new tricks, ref: my questions on\ the Fly Fishing Board, http://www.fishin.com/forums2/showthread.php?t=84569
That Pitzen knot looks interesting and I'll be testing it out on my flies.

[kygorski]

trilene knot easiest. Figure 8 is another vaRIATION OF IT, BOTH WORK

[elnutsmalljaws]

I agree with the MAN. Palomar is my go to knot when ever I can use it. Never had a problem with it. Only restrictions are when the lure is TOO LARGE to pass through the loop, or to large to pass through the eye of a small FF midge.

But that is not to say an old man can't learn new tricks, ref: my questions on\ the Fly Fishing Board, http://www.fishin.com/forums2/showthread.php?t=84569
That Pitzen knot looks interesting and I'll be testing it out on my flies.

Easy Gary for I know without a shadow of a doubt that I am no where near being the MAN. You said one of the problem was when the lure is TOO LARGE to pass through the loop. Just make the loop larger. I have tied 14" long trout imitating lures using it. Literally you can make the loop large enough to put yourself thru it if you need to.

[DJD]

I use Palomar on everything except topwater. When attaching line to line I use a blood knot and it has worked everytime.

[Tim_T]

I use Palomar on everything except topwater. When attaching line to line I use a blood knot and it has worked everytime.

This is what I do but I use the palomar on topwater as well. I use the blood knot for attaching two lines, even though I usually screw it up a couple of times before I get it right.

[elnutsmalljaws]

For topwater, I do use what is called a "Loop Knot" easy to tie and does not cinch all the way down on the eye of the bait which gives it more action.

[Shimano4Life]

For topwater, I do use what is called a "Loop Knot" easy to tie and does not cinch all the way down on the eye of the bait which gives it more action.

Same here. Eliminates the use of a split ring and gives the lure different action depending on the size of the loop. I learned of it years ago when reading an article about topwaters and the famous fly fisherman, Lefty Kreh. Although it was primarily a fly fishing knot, it is a very popular knot among bass pros for their topwater needs and it has served me well. However, I only use it for a "Sammy", Spook, frog, or Pop-R type lure -- buzzbaits need not apply.

[elnutsmalljaws]

Same here. Eliminates the use of a split ring and gives the lure different action depending on the size of the loop. I learned of it years ago when reading an article about topwaters and the famous fly fisherman, Lefty Kreh. Although it was primarily a fly fishing knot, it is a very popular knot among bass pros for their topwater needs and it has served me well. However, I only use it for a "Sammy", Spook, frog, or Pop-R type lure -- buzzbaits need not apply.

Same here, Sammy's, Spooks, Pop R's, Frogs, Rats, and such. Buzzbait get tied straight to the wire bend with Palomar for me.

[mhall]

For topwater, I do use what is called a "Loop Knot" easy to tie and does not cinch all the way down on the eye of the bait which gives it more action.

Easy fix here, put split rings on everything and tie whatever you want. Split ring lets it walk like a dog......... I have tied the loop knot and used Split rings and I can't see one bit of diffrence in the action or fish catching ability. And I ain't bragging but I bust some bass upside the head with a Spook.

[BassMasterMikeD]

Personally I have never had a problem with the Palomar on Flouro, Mono or Braid. I tie the same knot on my FNF 3-way set up and that is Braid to swivel, Flouro to swivel and Flouro to jig and NEVER had one single knot problem. I rarely use Mono because I don't fish topwater that much but when I did, still never had a problem with the Palomar knot. I thin it is the way you tie the knot, you have to make sure it is MOIST when cinching down, I don't cinch too fast as to make more heat build up in the knot plus make sure it is on top of the eye of the jig an not down around the bottomof the eye of the jig when cinching down.

I agree with you elnut, I have always used the Palomar but like I said when I started using the heavier Flouro I had two big fish that left me with a squirly noodle at the end of my line as if the knot failed which dropped my confidence in the knot for that type of line. Perhaps your right, there is a chance that I got into a hurry and did not seat it correctly. Thanks for the reply. I found this video that I caught my attention...

[FONT=Consolas][COLOR=#800080]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGZ8SBI8sGI[/COLOR][/FONT]