Barren?

[Bobby Headrick]

Jordan the B.A.S.S fed nation southern div, will be held there April 10th thru the 15th, and yes MKM the corp has already agreed with B.A.S.S to have it by pool before the start of the tourney. This had to be finalized before they would bring the tourney here, Glasogow won out over KY/Barkley and Cumberland, as Glasgow put up a better incentive to get this here. Yes this is a risky move but money TALKS.

[Jordan Bozarth]

Ok thanks

[mkmsports41]

Well I will have to see it to beleive it. Sounds like a dangerous move on the part of Glasgow. So they bring the lake up early, it floods and cant get it back down by a reasonable time. Ruins the revenue for a whole season. Could force campgrounds and boat ramps to close. Doesnt seem like one weekend could bring in more money than most of the season, I may be wrong though. Hopefully mother nature will co-operate, but I wouldnt count on it.

[RICHYD4U]

Well I will have to see it to beleive it. Sounds like a dangerous move on the part of Glasgow. So they bring the lake up early, it floods and cant get it back down by a reasonable time. Ruins the revenue for a whole season. Could force campgrounds and boat ramps to close. Doesnt seem like one weekend could bring in more money than most of the season, I may be wrong though. Hopefully mother nature will co-operate, but I wouldnt count on it.

Sounds like another possible high water year at Barren...and catching hybrids and lm's on parking lots.

-Rich

[Bobby Headrick]

MKM, i am quoting what was said at the last Ky B.A.S.S Federation Nation meeting in Oct during the state championship, as the possability of low water was brought and that is when we were told that THE CORP will bring it up, if you do not belive me dont, I am just passing on what is was told, yes if it floods it will stink, if if dont rain it will stink, The tourney could not be held on Barren if it was at normal pool for April, as not enough surface area, I would have rather seen it on Lake Cumberland, but Somerset did not put up the cash, and incentives, the State of Ky also had a say in this too, it will bring a lot of money to Glasgow. I was there at the meeting you were not. If you do not belive me call the KBFN pres.Yes we are very concerned that the lake could flood. Several lakes and communitys had a chance to get this tourney, but Glasgow won. Now we will just wait and see. And if it does flood, then the parking lot bite will be on.

[R19]

MKM, i am quoting what was said at the last Ky B.A.S.S Federation Nation meeting in Oct during the state championship, as the possability of low water was brought and that is when we were told that THE CORP will bring it up,

I have no reason not to belive that was said. If somebody from the Corps of Engineers did make that statement to KY BASS and they passed the information along to its members it was a misleading choice of words. To the best of my knowledge the Corps has no way to create water and raise the lake level. They can control the outflow but mother nature controls the inflow. The Corps can start holding water earlier than March 15 and that will bring the level up sooner than normal but only if mother nature gives us rain.

Buy April 10 the water could still be in the channel or it can be in the bushes. Hopefully we have normal rain fall and things work out for the best way for the Corps and KY BASS. For the Corps to claim we will bring it up;they should also state that mother nature has control on the inflow all we can do is regulate what we already have in the lake.

[Bobby Headrick]

It was not Ky Bass but B.A.S.S, yes the corp cannot control the weather, but they said that they would start holding it earlier to get it to pool by then, but if mother nature does not coop then I quess BASS will have some problems. I still question on why Barren for this big event, do manily to the fact that it is a flood control lake and very unpredictible,I do not think that this was really though out, if B.A.S.S requires a certain amt of surface of water to have these types of tourneys. I fished a fed nation south div in 2008 at Santee Cooper and that lake was 4 ft low, and with an avg depth of around 5/6 ft when full, it was interesting, I broke my t motor off due to so shallow and severl boats lost lower units as it was a very dangerous lake at that time. So it sometimes seems that MONEY talks and they have these divisionals where they get the best deals. I know that Barren is very unstable in the spring, I have lived here all my life and have seen it go from winter pool to 25 ft over summer pool in a few days, like last year and also back in the 80's it was in the parking lot at the state dock. I hope that this will work out, and it goes well, but with the way the weather has been in the last few years, it seems dicey.I for one would have thought lake Cumberland would have been the best choice, as it is has the surface area and also is not a draw down lake. But It dont matter to me now as I did not qualify this year.

[R19]

In my opinion what it really boils down to is BASS is a business. If lake X puts together a better $ package than lake Y BASS is going to choose lake X every time. I am sure there is a size limit on required surface area to hold an event. I have no idea what the number is but to be creative I will make one up. Lets say lake Y is 30,000 acers and located near a heavy population area with many motels and resturants for BASS and the people who show up for such an event. The minimun surface area is 15,000 acers but lake X is only 12,500 acres in a somewhat rural setting and everybody will have to travel a little farther to reach a motel and eat. The town of lake X puts together a package that gives any BASS member huge discounts to motels,resturants and shopping plus throws in some money to help offset the cost of the tournament. Even though lake Y has an made a similiar offer it was not as good of a package I believe they will choose lake X everytime.

In my opinion BASS puts the business side of the sport first and the angler side second.They run a business and do what finiancially is best for the business and that is what they should do as business people. If the fishery is a good place or bad place to fish that is somewhat irrelavant if $ is there to draw them in.


Look at the Classic that was held in Pittsburg a few years ago. I find it hard to believe that BASS did not realize that the Three Rives area was going to be a battle of who would catch three to five 12" fish a day. They set the record for lowest classic weight but I also bet BASS hade huge $ from Pittsburg to draw them there.

I think BASS is a good organization that promotes the sport of bass fishing in a positive way espically to the younger generation which is the future of bass fishing. I just do not like how they handle some of the business decisions that they make as to where and when to fish...However I do respect their business descisions. If they do what is best finanically for BASS they will survive even though I may not like thier descision. Please do not take this reply as a bashing of BASS because that was not my intention.

[Bobby Headrick]

So true R19, it is all about business, and yes B.A.S.S is a business and a good one, also note that this tourney was set up before the change of ownership. I too love B.A S.S, have been a member since the 70's when I was a kid. It is my opinion that they should have thought this one out a little more, yes if I would have made the st team this year and me living here in Glasgow , I would love Barren, but they seemed not to take into consideration of how this lake is, we will just have to see. But the positive thing is that our team will have an advanatge, unless it floods then well it will be anyones game. But like you said it is all about the money,also another note the State ramp is supposed to be closed to the gen public during this event due to parking, and the marina owner will be letting them use his docks so the contestants wont have to trailor to weigh in, I wish they would have used port oliver ramp as that is one nice ramp and set up for tourneys and looks like the logical one to use as it is set up for tourneys, but like I said before all this was done before the change of ownership, as it was not BASS but ESPN. Now it is back to B.A.S.S.

[MagikSmallie]

So true R19, it is all about business, and yes B.A.S.S is a business and a good one, also note that this tourney was set up before the change of ownership. I too love B.A S.S, have been a member since the 70's when I was a kid. It is my opinion that they should have thought this one out a little more, yes if I would have made the st team this year and me living here in Glasgow , I would love Barren, but they seemed not to take into consideration of how this lake is, we will just have to see. But the positive thing is that our team will have an advanatge, unless it floods then well it will be anyones game. But like you said it is all about the money,also another note the State ramp is supposed to be closed to the gen public during this event due to parking, and the marina owner will be letting them use his docks so the contestants wont have to trailor to weigh in, I wish they would have used port oliver ramp as that is one nice ramp and set up for tourneys and looks like the logical one to use as it is set up for tourneys, but like I said before all this was done before the change of ownership, as it was not BASS but ESPN. Now it is back to B.A.S.S.

What money are you refering to that Glasgow put up for the event? I was under the impression from the KBFN meeting that the KY B.A.S.S. had the CHOICE of where to hold the event and that it was between KY Lake and Barren. But since alot of out of state guys could get plenty of help on KY that we went with Barren instead to give the local team a leg up. I am unaware of any money that cities or towns have put up. granted there will be revenue coming to the city from gas,lodging, restuarants, etc.
Just wondering where this idea that Glasgow "outbid" or "Won" the event over Somerset came from?

[Bobby Headrick]

The lake Cumberland comment was a mistake, but Glasgow offered a incentive package from what I understood. Hotel Discounts, ice, etc, that is the MONEY deal I was refering too, I will end this now, I hope it works out with the Barren deal, I really do not care anymore what happens, hope the team wins, but It was not only the ky Bass fed that had this choice, however I will not be fishing the KBFN, I have fished it for 10 yrs been on the state team, and been in the AOY top 5 the last few years. Yes Glasgow put up a nice package to get it here. I am not talking actual hard monies, but discounts, freebes etc. I personally think yes, Barren gives the state team an advanatge, but it is a flood control lake and we will see if the tourney goes off as planed, I hope they have a backup if barren does not come up to full pool or is way over pool.

[homie452]

Ok lets See here 7 states
6 teams per state
= 42 boats how is this gonna make or break barren river???
This isnt a pro circut of 150 boats or any thing
so i just dont see the core holding the lake just for 42 boats