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    Mitch Daniels takes on LABOR

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    INDIANA LEGISLATIVE UPDATE

    House Bill 1585: Seeks to permanently ban collective bargaining for state employees, criminalize the encouragement and participation in strikes by public employees and takes away the pensions of those who do. The bill also prohibits even voluntary collection of dues by local and state governments as well as school employers and disproportionately hurts the ability of women and minorities to bargain for better wages and working conditions. It passed out of committee and now moves to the House floor for a vote.

    House Bill 1216: Prohibits project labor agreements and renders Indiana’s common construction requirements useless. Specifically the legislation exempts from common construction wage requirements projects under $1 million and all school and university projects. Currently only projects under $150,000 are exempt from this law. Passing this bill would lower the wages of Indiana’s construction workers and open the door to out-of-state workers.

    House Bill 1203: An unnecessary bill designed to interfere with worker's ability to designate a union to represent them, if passed the National Labor Relations Board has already pledged to sue the state because the measure is unconstitutional.

    House Bill 1538: Bars local units of government from setting a minimum wage higher than a state minimum wage, restricting an important way to put upward pressure on wages.

    Senate Bill 273: Like House Bill 1585, this bill seeks to permanently ban collective bargaining for state employees and criminalize the encouragement and participation in strikes by public employees.

    Senate Bill 333: Seeks to eliminate the use of all Projects Labor Agreements on publicly funded construction projects.

    Senate Bill 575: Limits collective bargaining rights of Indiana’s teachers to the point of dismantling them. If passed, only wages and certain fringe benefits may be bargained. This bill eliminates bargaining of hours and days, opening the door to extremely long hours and a longer work week with no additional compensation.

    Senate Bill 001: Allows for outside agencies to be used to evaluate teachers and for teachers to evaluate other teachers. Teachers will not have input into the evaluation tool. The State Board of Education will have to approve the tool chosen by a school corporation, limiting local control. There is no appeal process under this bill if a teacher is fired unjustly. The Superintendent of Public Instruction may revoke a teacher’s license at will.

    House Bill 1002: Allows for charters to be established by mayors of 2nd class cities or a majority vote of a school board. The bill allows for acquisition of under-utilized buildings for $1 per year for up to 20 years. The school corporation must maintain the building. Charters have first option at any under-utilized building, meaning the corporation cannot choose to sell it if a charter wants the building. It also requires that only 50 percent of the teachers in a charters need to be licensed.

    House Bill 1003: Creates vouchers to allow public money to be diverted to private schools. If passed public schools are estimated to lose $110 million.

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    Thats alot to digest. We as a country are headed for some of the worst times in recent history. We are broke and trying to fix alot of the problems is gonna cause tons of protests and potential riots.
    I know the elected officials have a tuff job but so what they wanted the jobs so now it's time to earn their pay. Starts with Congress to me and the POTUS. The whole lot have lied, played games with our money and basically sold us out.
    I'm not for Unions and their red tape gubment style bully tactics. As a rule I do hope they get knocked down a peg or two.
    Obamy has some tough decisions to make as well as the officials of the individual states. Man what a mess....

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    I've never been a fan of unions, but unions were a useful tool in the private sector many, many years ago. Their time has now passed.

    As far as public sector, I don't think unions should be allowed.

    And one other item: When Washington DC or any other government has a snow day and tells all non-essential employees to not report for work, FIRE THEM. What part about non-essential do you not understand?

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    Mitch Daniels is the poorest excuse for a Governor in the United States....sure hope he runs for president, that way we can be sure to have a democrat in office for at least four more....years. That might be close to enough time to get the mess that Georgie Boy and the "Anti-Workers Rights" republicans left for us straightened out.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukkid View Post
    Mitch Daniels is the poorest excuse for a Governor in the United States....sure hope he runs for president, that way we can be sure to have a democrat in office for at least four more....years. That might be close to enough time to get the mess that Georgie Boy and the "Anti-Workers Rights" republicans left for us straightened out.........
    Buwahaaaaaa!!!! Still blaming bush??? Buwahaaaaaaaa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukkid View Post
    Mitch Daniels is the poorest excuse for a Governor in the United States....sure hope he runs for president, that way we can be sure to have a democrat in office for at least four more....years. That might be close to enough time to get the mess that Georgie Boy and the "Anti-Workers Rights" republicans left for us straightened out.........
    WAKE UP........unions are destroying the FABRIC of America. Companies are leaving due to the cost of doing business. Unions drive up the cost of everything.

    Americans have grown lazy, un-motivated, uneducated and DEPENDENT on the government, while developing countries continue to thrive. If we don't get our work ethic back and our AMERICAN SPIRIT back, I'm afraid for our future.

    Here is something to ponder........

    I got into a rather heated argument with a friend of mine who owns his own business, and has probably 30 people working for him in 2 locations. He is rather successful. He also is a STRONG HEADED Leftist Liberal. Pro Union, Pro Health Care, Pro this, pro that.........bla. bla. bla.

    So I told him.........how about I come to your building and protest outside and ORGANIZE your 30 workers and then DEMAND health care, and a 10% increase in pay.

    His answer........I will FIRE THEM. This is his right, but isn't this directly against his collective bargaining mentality??

    Imagine that...........When you turn this crap around they don't "get it".

    Unions do nothing but collect money, fund SOCIALISTS, and blackmail Corporations. It is time to eliminate collective bargaining. It has NO PLACE in this global economy.

    Later,

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    No REPUBLICANS "the party of no" is destroying the fabric of America......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukkid View Post
    No REPUBLICANS "the party of no" is destroying the fabric of America......
    Lol ur good at trolling up responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    WAKE UP........unions are destroying the FABRIC of America. Companies are leaving due to the cost of doing business. Unions drive up the cost of everything.

    Americans have grown lazy, un-motivated, uneducated and DEPENDENT on the government, while developing countries continue to thrive. If we don't get our work ethic back and our AMERICAN SPIRIT back, I'm afraid for our future.

    Here is something to ponder........

    I got into a rather heated argument with a friend of mine who owns his own business, and has probably 30 people working for him in 2 locations. He is rather successful. He also is a STRONG HEADED Leftist Liberal. Pro Union, Pro Health Care, Pro this, pro that.........bla. bla. bla.

    So I told him.........how about I come to your building and protest outside and ORGANIZE your 30 workers and then DEMAND health care, and a 10% increase in pay.

    His answer........I will FIRE THEM. This is his right, but isn't this directly against his collective bargaining mentality??

    Imagine that...........When you turn this crap around they don't "get it".

    Unions do nothing but collect money, fund SOCIALISTS, and blackmail Corporations. It is time to eliminate collective bargaining. It has NO PLACE in this global economy.

    Later,

    Geo
    I don't think anyone would consider deep mining coal if it were not for union pressure on safety issues.

    The basic 15 min. break every 2 hours was originally bagained through unions in the auto industry (on a grulling assembly line) and now is a federal standard.

    Child labor laws were founded on union pressures.

    Anyone who works as an employee has benifited by unions weather they are a member or not.

    So unions have done a lot to benifit the middle class. Have they gone to far? Yes in many cases they have. Do some unions have to much power, consider the teachers unions.

    So why do we have to be so ALL OR NOTHING? Hate unions/love unions.

    There are a lot of politicians that would abolish all unions. I would question their commitment to the wellbeing of most Americans.

    Then there are others that would simply steal from Peter (corporate america) to pay Paul (Votes/workers) and ride the wave for as long as it lasts.

    So to those that would throw the baby out wilth the bathwater, crushing unions would take us back to sweat shops, industrial accidents and workplace abuse. Do not think corporate america would not take every advantage available to them.

    Then there are those unions that are rife with corruption, demand more than can be reasonably maintained.

    So the best approach is to regulate union powers and provide unions with the ability to function within their regulations.

    I don't hate them or love them. Even with all the safety advancement they have championed in the mining industry, historically the miners union has been one of the most corrupt.

    The term REDNECK was the name given to union supporters in W.VA durring the battle with the mine owners and union members. The mine owners actually hired airpales to drop pipe bombs on the miners. The miners were out gunned with single shot shotguns and deer rifles against machine guns. Needless to say the score was mine owners 100s miners 2. The miners wre red bandanas around their necks to tell who was who. Thus the term REDNECK.

    So Rednecks are union supporters.
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    Re: Mitch Daniels takes on LABOR

    Quote Originally Posted by ukkid View Post
    Mitch Daniels is the poorest excuse for a Governor in the United States....sure hope he runs for president, that way we can be sure to have a democrat in office for at least four more....years. That might be close to enough time to get the mess that Georgie Boy and the "Anti-Workers Rights" republicans left for us straightened out.........
    Really? I didnt know that being overpaid and lazy was a workers right...

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    Union workers are all lazy?? Sounds like too much FOX (FIX) News.and the great one Glenn Beck

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukkid View Post
    Union workers are all lazy?? Sounds like too much FOX (FIX) News.and the great one Glenn Beck
    Nope sounds like personal experience from working two different union jobs. Sounds like having my head out of my A$$ unlike anyone who believes that Detroits problems were caused by anything other than organized labor. Sounds like I have seen first hand experience that unions have caused the education problems in this country.

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