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    Smile Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    That sponsering a car isn't cheap. but did we forget the price of advertising? heres a great slogan " join the army. go to strange and exciting places, meet new cultures, and kill em"not original

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Quote Originally Posted by walkeraviator View Post
    I agree, DOD sponsorships are a waste. I would guess that 99% of the people in the army knew what they were going to do and sought out a recruiter themselves without any advertising pressure.
    Actually it is a good investment in advertising. It has raised the recruitment level of quality individuals. The pentagon did a study on it because they wanted to cut it and they found out that it has really helped the recruiting effort. I thought that with this economy that their should be no problem in recruiting young people, and their isn't. Their is a problem with recruiting high quality young people. NASCAR sponsorship has helped recruit more quality people.

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Maybe they should stop paying to recruit and spend the money on mandatory military conscription. Bring back the draft! Then people will stop complaining about NASCAR sponsorship because the'll be worried about their son's going off to war. Give them something real to complain about!

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Dream on! We couldn't afford the draft. Gates is one guy who finally got it right, no more asian or mid-east wars. You cant win them.Yes you can beat their a--es, but instead of doing it and leaving, we choose to stay, and get slowly nubbled to death by ducks.[nibbled]

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Let me know who are the true fans of Nascar here? I want to make a fans club.

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    I agree but see it like Tim, cut it all, don't discriminate, cut every single piece of pork you can find. Including idiotic moronic crap like studying why Cows fart so much. Or why people like to drink Coke Cola......

    Let's don't just pick one at random, CUT'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Just remembered they sponsor fishing pros as well. Prolly in a lot of sports we don't watch.

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom523 View Post
    Maybe they should stop paying to recruit and spend the money on mandatory military conscription. Bring back the draft! Then people will stop complaining about NASCAR sponsorship because the'll be worried about their son's going off to war. Give them something real to complain about!
    Sponsorship or not, the kids are still going in harms way. And they do it so guys like you and me can sit here safe at home and complain about it. Gotta respect them for what they do.

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Had to bring this back up because it is in the news today.

    http://www.wired2fish.com/National-G...ps-WhatsUp6749

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    Re: Instead, lets spend more to take care of them!

    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    A member of Congress wants to end the military's sponsorship of NASCAR race teams, saying it's a waste of taxpayers' money.

    Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minnesota, is offering an amendment to the 2011 House budget bill to ban the sponsorships, which her office said has cost the military $100 million over the past 10 years, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    The National Guard sponsors Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s team, the Army sponsors Ryan Newman, and the Air Force sponsors AJ Allmendinger, according to HamptonRoads.com.

    "I would challenge the Pentagon to give me one example of someone today in Iraq or Afghanistan who saw the Go Army car going around the racetrack and that's why they joined the Army," Bill Harper, McCollum's chief of staff, told HamptonRoads.com. "It may be the reason why they go to Home Depot but not necessarily Afghanistan."

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    The Army spent $7 million on NASCAR endorsements in 2010, down from $11.6 million the year before, which McCollum’s chief of staff called “a complete waste of taxpayer money … Who is in Iraq or Afghanistan because they saw an Army car go around the track?" he asked.
    The Army pays for the sponsorship of different entities from the funds allotted for recruitment. This is an advertising cost. The Army is seeking the best and the brightest individuals. They need advertising to attract young men and women into the Army. The sponsorship program of NASCAR teams has been immensly successful for recruitment.They can afford to get picky now that the wars are winding down and that they are drwing down the force. The advertising budget will soon be cut and the sponsorships will end. It's not easy to recruit people to suffer the hardships of military service and the NASCAR sponsorship did a great job of helpinhg recruiters meet their goals.

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