I have tried all brands of spinning reels and in my opinion, there is Shimano and then the rest. I have tried top of the line Stellas and they are overpriced but they are the best by far. The drag on the Daiwas are not as good neither are the Quantums. Go to eBay and look up Shimano in the size you want, you can usually get them at about a 25% discount on all Shimanos from Dicks, etc prices, have seen Symetres sell for $50-60 new.