Elected Officials

[lroberts]

Why don't you not show up for work in protest and then show us your paycheck at the end of the pay period!

Thats what leave days are for.....if you want to use them that way. i am a teacher and would not do that. Have any of you ever taken a sick/leave/vacation day to go fishing? Me too! Whats the real difference?

[GeoFisher]

Kentucky is an "at will employment state"

Private industry can fire anyone, anytime for any reason. (other than discrimination,issues .....black, white, jewish, girl, boy ect.)

Don't like pants..fired

Don't like haircut...fired

Can the employee collect unemployment benifits. Yes!

Can employer be sued. No!

If the employee looses his job through no fault of hisown he can get unemployment benifits. But thats it. (unless discrimination laws were broken)

WHATS wrong with THAT........it is not your RIGHT to be employed. Any employer should be able to fire you for ANYTHING........PERIOD. YOU do not have a right to work PERIOD..........end of story.

When people get over the entitlement ******** ideas, maybe we will get back to realistic values.

Lose your job because they fire you BECAUSE they didn't like your pants. FIND a different job, because the boss was probably a freakin douche anyways.......

WHY should you really CARE about getting fired for something lame.

You know LIFE is not fair. When we try to legislate fairness in "life" we get the garbage we have now. MOVE ON, get over it and stop crying about it.

My company gets tired of me or outsources me to India for 1/4 of what I make........MORE power to them. I will find something better, and probably with BETTER PAY. Good people can make it happen. Now granted, there is nothing in Louisville for me, but hell, I've always wanted to live in Phoenix, or Minnesota, or Texas, or Florida, or Tennessee, or, or, or......you get the picture.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

WHATS wrong with THAT........it is not your RIGHT to be employed. Any employer should be able to fire you for ANYTHING........PERIOD. YOU do not have a right to work PERIOD..........end of story.

When people get over the entitlement ******** ideas, maybe we will get back to realistic values.

Lose your job because they fire you BECAUSE they didn't like your pants. FIND a different job, because the boss was probably a freakin douche anyways.......

WHY should you really CARE about getting fired for something lame.

You know LIFE is not fair. When we try to legislate fairness in "life" we get the garbage we have now. MOVE ON, get over it and stop crying about it.

My company gets tired of me or outsources me to India for 1/4 of what I make........MORE power to them. I will find something better, and probably with BETTER PAY. Good people can make it happen. Now granted, there is nothing in Louisville for me, but hell, I've always wanted to live in Phoenix, or Minnesota, or Texas, or Florida, or Tennessee, or, or, or......you get the picture.

Later,

Geo

Mr Fisher, I guess all the folks who care about the preservation of our way of life that has served us well for the last hundred years or so can do is hope you, Rush and the others like you don't gain enough power to completely destroy the fabric of this country ...If that happens then I guess we will start to see the job market pick up as we will be the country where jobs are shipped to, we can be the new Mexico or some other country where the upper half has most of the resources and the rest of us have to work in sweat shops.

[kydonky]

WHATS wrong with THAT........it is not your RIGHT to be employed. Any employer should be able to fire you for ANYTHING........PERIOD. YOU do not have a right to work PERIOD..........end of story.

When people get over the entitlement ******** ideas, maybe we will get back to realistic values.

Lose your job because they fire you BECAUSE they didn't like your pants. FIND a different job, because the boss was probably a freakin douche anyways.......

WHY should you really CARE about getting fired for something lame.

You know LIFE is not fair. When we try to legislate fairness in "life" we get the garbage we have now. MOVE ON, get over it and stop crying about it.

My company gets tired of me or outsources me to India for 1/4 of what I make........MORE power to them. I will find something better, and probably with BETTER PAY. Good people can make it happen. Now granted, there is nothing in Louisville for me, but hell, I've always wanted to live in Phoenix, or Minnesota, or Texas, or Florida, or Tennessee, or, or, or......you get the picture.

Later,

Geo

Nothing wrong with that. Just saying that KY is an at will employment state.

If you want any job security in KY you need to have an employment contract. Then you know what is expected of you and your employer will pay you per the terms of your contract.

If there are terms in your contract that say he will not replace you if the job is needed and you meet standards, he cannot fire you and hire a new worker from Mexico at a fourth of your salary.

How do you get an employment contract? One way is through union representation or you may negotiate a contract for yourself with your employer.

Many (if not most) independant insurance agents have contracts with the insurance carriers like Allstate, Nationwise, State Auto. If the agent meets the sales criteria and other requirements of the contract, the company will not replace him with an another agent. Some contracts may have geographical districts that protect the agent from unfair compition in an area for the same product. But if the agent does not meet sales quota, breaks a law, or misrepresents himself or a product, the company may fire him as well as sue him for damages.

So unions are just another employment contract. Some good for both employer and employee and some contracts not good for either or both.

I guess the country is changing. We have all of these disposable products coming from China, use once and throw away. I guess it's just the next step to have disposable people. Work for a company for 29 years and have to take two weeks off sick, just fire them and get you a new one from Mexico, India or Korea.

Geo I don't think you would like Phoenix very long. You would be trading your boat for a dune buggy. Its a long way to Lake Mead or lake Powell.

[GeoFisher]

Mr Fisher, I guess all the folks who care about the preservation of our way of life that has served us well for the last hundred years or so can do is hope you, Rush and the others like you don't gain enough power to completely destroy the fabric of this country ...If that happens then I guess we will start to see the job market pick up as we will be the country where jobs are shipped to, we can be the new Mexico or some other country where the upper half has most of the resources and the rest of us have to work in sweat shops.

Now I will agree with you definitely there, and I'd love to see FREE trade turned more into FAIR TRADE.......Places like Mexico and India have virtually no rules on employment the environment, etc, etc. I'd like to see our government crack down on companies that move to places that don't give a rip about workers. Maybe that is where the gubment should stick their noses, and stop bitching about collective bargaining rights here.

Collective bargaining has ran its course. Maybe there are still some dangerous jobs that should allow bargaining to keep them safe, but for Teachers Unions to exists, and for the UAW to have as much control as they do........GET REAL.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

Geo I don't think you would like Phoenix very long. You would be trading your boat for a dune buggy. Its a long way to Lake Mead or lake Powell.

Maybe I'd become GeoFlyer again.......I used to be really big into RC aircraft. I had to pick which one to pursue. I loved fishing but I also loved flying. I picked fishing because it was cheaper.

Of course, it was cheaper before Loomis rods, before canoes, before canada trips, before 10 day trips to KY lake, before the boat.........etc, etc.

I think my wife would LOVE for me to give up fishing and take up flying RC again........at least I'd be home every night after flying. Of course, she does like me gone............HM.

Later,

Geo

[kydonky]

Maybe I'd become GeoFlyer again.......I used to be really big into RC aircraft. I had to pick which one to pursue. I loved fishing but I also loved flying. I picked fishing because it was cheaper.

Of course, it was cheaper before Loomis rods, before canoes, before canada trips, before 10 day trips to KY lake, before the boat.........etc, etc.

I think my wife would LOVE for me to give up fishing and take up flying RC again........at least I'd be home every night after flying. Of course, she does like me gone............HM.

Later,

Geo

Funny you should mention flying. I have been looking at this new sport pilot license. Fly a two place (seat plane) under 7000 ft. single engine, no turbo, fixed gear, gross weight 1380 lbs, daylight only. No medical (other than that to get a drivers lic.).

A lot of planes out there that qualify, Luscombe 8a, piper cubs, Taylorcraft, areonca cheif. Even Cessna has come out with a new sport plane the 162. 20 hours is all you need.

Wife is not convinced yet. I think I'm going to push for a new harley, then after a while we may compromise with an areoca cheif sport plane.

[Tom523]

You obviously know nothing about politics.....the man who is the Rep. Speaker of the House right now led a group of Rep. that did this several years ago. It is in the Constitution that they can do this.....had nothing to do with something they did or didn't do. Save your name calling for something you are informed on!

It is also in their constitution that they can be compelled to show up for work. Use the police if necessary.

[Tom523]

Kentucky is an "at will employment state"

Private industry can fire anyone, anytime for any reason. (other than discrimination,issues .....black, white, jewish, girl, boy ect.)

Don't like pants..fired

Don't like haircut...fired

Can the employee collect unemployment benifits. Yes!

Can employer be sued. No!

If the employee looses his job through no fault of hisown he can get unemployment benifits. But thats it. (unless discrimination laws were broken)

In Kentucky unemployment benefits can be paid even if you are fired. As long as you weren't fired for violence in the workplace or stealing from your employer. I know a guy that got fired for showing up for work drunk twice. He collects an unemployment check.

[kydonky]

In Kentucky unemployment benefits can be paid even if you are fired. As long as you weren't fired for violence in the workplace or stealing from your employer. I know a guy that got fired for showing up for work drunk twice. He collects an unemployment check.

You are not correct. An employer can dispute any unemployment claim and if the employee was fired for cause (drinking on the job, not showing up and so on) and unemployment benifits will be denied. If he is fired because of a downturn or other reason through "no fault of the employee" he will receive benifits.

You probably do not have all the facts about the guy you know.

Now you may ask why would an employer dispute a claim that is paid by the state and not the employer? The reason is that the employers unemployment isnsurance premium is based on his claims record. If he has a lot of claims and frequently fires employees thru no fault, his unemployment insurance premiums will rise. If he has few claims his premium will be much less.