Adrian Peterson is an IDIOT

[DJD]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...icleid=1323715

This idea that the owners need to show their "books" to the players bothers me. I guess down to my core I'm against workers feeling they are the reason something exists. It's just not true.

Don't the owners get to enjoy some privacy over their business decisions? Why is it that workers get to decide how much you make or get to keep from your investment. I don't know the details but the idea of Unions (again) pushing the people who pay their salaries bothers me.

[Tim_T]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...icleid=1323715

This idea that the owners need to show their "books" to the players bothers me. I guess down to my core I'm against workers feeling they are the reason something exists. It's just not true.

Don't the owners get to enjoy some privacy over their business decisions? Why is it that workers get to decide how much you make or get to keep from your investment. I don't know the details but the idea of Unions (again) pushing the people who pay their salaries bothers me.

Don, I have to disagree. This is a completely different situation in that the workers are a select group that have skills that others do not. The players are the reason the owners make these billions and without them the NFL is done.

I admit to being on the players side in this fracas. There is no way they should add two more games to the regular season. These guys bodies take a brutal beating and have a short career as it is. They put their health at risk for the entertainment of the fans and it is not a long career. The money is already there so it is not like the ticket prices will rise. Players salaries come from the crazy amount of TV money that is thrown to the owners, not from ticket prices.

[elnutsmalljaws]

The issue with the Owners versus the Players in the NFL is a version of a company with Management versus Employees in a union with a contract. I have never and will never be a "union" guy. I have said before and will say again, if "Companies" are ran correctly then there is no need for a union. "Correctly" meaning Management is firm, fair and consistent to the Employees, Employees give an honest days effort for an honest days pay. Both sides doing what is asked of each other is a way that both sides will get in the end what is fair for both sides. The players asking to see the books for the past 10 years, which I agree that ownership has the right to make as much money as they can, is in reference to them "hiding or diverting" $4 Billion dollars in revenue. This sure does look shaky if the owners are hiding money. There is absoluetly NO WAY that any games are missed. Bottom line is both sides are making money hand over fist and both sides know that if games are missed then money is lost by both sides. An agreement will be reached, the lockout will be over and all will be good in the world again.

[DJD]

Don, I have to disagree. This is a completely different situation in that the workers are a select group that have skills that others do not. The players are the reason the owners make these billions and without them the NFL is done.

I admit to being on the players side in this fracas. There is no way they should add two more games to the regular season. These guys bodies take a brutal beating and have a short career as it is. They put their health at risk for the entertainment of the fans and it is not a long career. The money is already there so it is not like the ticket prices will rise. Players salaries come from the crazy amount of TV money that is thrown to the owners, not from ticket prices.

Tim,
I understand what your saying but it can be said that without owners there are no players. Without business folks and lawyers making great TV deals and bringing in the money there are no games to watch. "Which came first the chicken or the egg"?

If all the players in the NFL decided to hang it up today the next round of guys from the College ranks would be in line to fill those slots in a heart beat. Super stars would be made and these guys would love the life they worked so hard for.

The players are employees and it's just sports. I love to watch it and these guys can make whatever the market or owners will allow...I could care less but when they feel like they can hold the hand that feeds them in the fire I have a problem with it. Go on strike because they feel they want more or deserve more? It just stinks of Union bullies and I hate that!

I don't own the company but I'm in on the fray when it comes to alot of issues with money and how much we pay guys. Some guys see a contract for $100K-500K and think wow why can't I have some of that. They have no knowledge of what the insurance, bennies, gas, trucks, cell phones, computers, maintenance and so on costs us each month. They just see the money. I'm of the belief it's not an employees business what an owner makes. If you don't like what your making and can't get a raise move on.

Adding two more games is silly for the reasons you stated. I don't know all the details of who wants what other than a few items that have been shared on ESPN..I'm sure there are alot more. No sweat Tim we all have our opinions on these things and from the looks of it the owners and players union are great examples of that.