well 5 something won it take much to win it as i suspected. 2 boats caught 2 and one caught 1 (big fish 3 something). all were caught on shaky heads, jerkbaits and tubes around points with cover. our boat was fishless =( the water temperatures were 49 to 51 in the real shallows, the water was slightly stained and the wind was blowing like a mother. anywho thanks for all that replied maybe ill have better luck in 2 weeks.