Oil is down 12 percent for the week...........I WONDER

[kydonky]

I wish gas prices were lower. I think we are paying a crazy price. But I really don't know what to do about it that would change anything, aside from finding alternative fuels....but supply and demand would eventually put those alternative fuels in the same price boat, wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]

Need to build infastructure that competes with gas or change use of current infastructure. How about designation some roads for electric (golf cart included) cars or bikes only, rail services ect.

[GeoFisher]

Splitshot........while I pretty much agree with what you're saying, I really don't believe it is all greed. In your own example of yourself, are you greedy??

I don't consider myself GREEDY because I drive a nice vehicle, my wife drives a nice vehicle and I have a decent boat. NONE of these are top of the line, but they are certainly not clunkers.

BUT I don't consider myself greedy because of it. Nor do I consider myself greedy when I TRY to get to that American dream. I know lots of very successful folks who are close to being priced "out" of the market with their homes, vehicles, etc, etc, but I don't consider them greedy. Most of these folks also give very generously to church and charity. I don't think a greedy person would be so charitable........

Like I said, I really agree with most of what you said, but I'm not too sure GREED is quite the right word.....especially when you apply it to normal middle class folks.....

Later,

Geo

[MrSplitshot]

Splitshot........while I pretty much agree with what you're saying, I really don't believe it is all greed. In your own example of yourself, are you greedy??

I don't consider myself GREEDY because I drive a nice vehicle, my wife drives a nice vehicle and I have a decent boat. NONE of these are top of the line, but they are certainly not clunkers.

BUT I don't consider myself greedy because of it. Nor do I consider myself greedy when I TRY to get to that American dream. I know lots of very successful folks who are close to being priced "out" of the market with their homes, vehicles, etc, etc, but I don't consider them greedy. Most of these folks also give very generously to church and charity. I don't think a greedy person would be so charitable........

Like I said, I really agree with most of what you said, but I'm not too sure GREED is quite the right word.....especially when you apply it to normal middle class folks.....

Later,

Geo

I get what you're saying...greed probably isn't quite the right word. The principle of buying more than you really need is what I'm trying to convey. I don't really consider myself greedy, but I do consider myself to have much more expensive stuff than I really need. The older I get, the more I feel like those things that I've just GOT to have really aren't worth the price you pay...none of it amounts to a hill of beans when it comes to what is really important in life.

I feel hypocritical to bitch about the price of gas, when nobody grabbed me by the arm and drug me down to the Ford dealership, gun to my head, and forced me to sign on for 60 monthly payments on one of the most fuel inefficient rides on the lot...I just HAD to have it...knowing full well that it would bend me over at the gas pump every week.

DUMB, maybe that's the word I'm looking for....LOL....

[Hlleonard]

I get what you're saying...greed probably isn't quite the right word. The principle of buying more than you really need is what I'm trying to convey. I don't really consider myself greedy, but I do consider myself to have much more expensive stuff than I really need. The older I get, the more I feel like those things that I've just GOT to have really aren't worth the price you pay...none of it amounts to a hill of beans when it comes to what is really important in life.

I feel hypocritical to bitch about the price of gas, when nobody grabbed me by the arm and drug me down to the Ford dealership, gun to my head, and forced me to sign on for 60 monthly payments on one of the most fuel inefficient rides on the lot...I just HAD to have it...knowing full well that it would bend me over at the gas pump every week.

DUMB, maybe that's the word I'm looking for....LOL....

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We all have the desire to better ourselves as in a more modern home, newer truck, better boat, improve our income and numerous other things ...A while back union members were being chastised for ruining the country with their greed ...That seems to be a quality we all share but when folks seemingly "have everything that money can buy" so to speak and they still see fit to squeeze the American economy, even at the risk of pushing the country deeper into recession then it seems to me that takes on a different meaning on the "greed scale" ...A while back we were ranting about a certain leader of a certain middle eastern country that had golden wash basins in his personal residence while others in his country were in a constant struggle to survive ...Surely we as a country are better than that.

[GeoFisher]

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We all have the desire to better ourselves as in a more modern home, newer truck, better boat, improve our income and numerous other things ...A while back union members were being chastised for ruining the country with their greed ...That seems to be a quality we all share but when folks seemingly "have everything that money can buy" so to speak and they still see fit to squeeze the American economy, even at the risk of pushing the country deeper into recession then it seems to me that takes on a different meaning on the "greed scale" ...A while back we were ranting about a certain leader of a certain middle eastern country that had golden wash basins in his personal residence while others in his country were in a constant struggle to survive ...Surely we as a country are better than that.

And I totally get what you're saying about unions.........the thing about them though is that I really don't blame the folks IN unions too much. What really chaps my ass is that being in a union and being TOLD by the union and whoever that you're going to be taken care of for the rest of your life doesn't change the fact that you SHOULD try to save some of your own hard earned money for a rainy day.

I know 10 craploads of folks that never saved a single RED CENT from their earnings. BIG boats, places at the lakes, fishing pontoons, personal watercraft, you name it......THEN when they get laid off or whatever they struggle and whine about not having a pot to piss in....but they sure do have a lot of nice toys. Most everyone I know who had or HAS a good union job are like that have never saved any money......I don't know if that is because they were told they would have a pension for LIFE or what, but I do know a lot of those folks are hurting.

This is one of those cases of keeping up with the neighbors. I don't CARE what boat or car they have. Mine are paid off, and my house is so close, I can taste it.

Later,

Geo