barren state park ramp pls read and reply

[mkmsports41]

If its unsafe keep it closed. If it is safe open it up. The guy that owns the marina has been in hot water before over several parking lot/ramp issues. It is a State Ramp. He does not own it, allthough he tries at times. I dont see any reason fighting over something that is unsafe.

[kygorski]

So the 5 bucks is an issue? How much does your boat cost? How about your fishing tackle?This is insane thinking, we spend hundreds on tackle, thousands on boats and complain about a 5 buck launch fee.Want to save money,fish from shore its free! There are other ramps on barren, there are other lakes in Ky, there are even other states hate the nfive bucks, how about 20 a launch on some lake michigan sites.

[crazyfishinnut]

It is unsafe. The boats roaring in and out of the ramp also will damage the marina without a break wall, most boaters think it is all about them and don’t care about anyone else’s property. The state park also is differently funded than the COE. If you tear up the corps property they have deeper pockets. Parking is also an issue, as soon an s it is open there will be a 200 boat tourney out of there that puts people parking in no parking spaces again it is not all about you or the house boaters, it is about safety. Just because in your mind there is more of an inconvenience than a risk don’t make it so

[smashdn]

It is unsafe.

What exactly is unsafe about it? I have launched my boat no problem off a flooded road or a gravel bank. If it is about the turn-around being underwater, there are many instances that it has been underwater and the ramp open.

Just because the ramp is open does not mean you shouldn't use your better judgement and not launch if you are not comfortable with your rig or your skill given the conditions. If you need a turn around and a 50 foot wide ramp you might be best to just wait. But by closing the ramp they are closing off a fair section of the lake for people with smaller boats who do not want to or are able to run from Bailey's up Peter Creek or up the lake.

The boats roaring in and out of the ramp also will damage the marina without a break wall,

The backside of that marina is always unprotected from the wakes of boats going into and coming out of Peter Creek. The newest expansion of the marina is unprotected by the break wall.

I don't guess I understand why it should remain closed.

[crazyfishinnut]

no the marina is not exposed to the wakes except for a small part. There are wave breaks all around the added on part as well as the mouth of peters. there is no protection at all on the ramp side now and it dont take much to rake up thousands of dollars in damages, broken cables, water lines ,and boat damage from rough wakes. The inconvience is short term but damage can be long term. I bet it dont open back up till the lower lot that protects the marina just like last year.

[smashdn]

no the marina is not exposed to the wakes except for a small part. There are wave breaks all around the added on part as well as the mouth of peters. there is no protection at all on the ramp side now and it dont take much to rake up thousands of dollars in damages, broken cables, water lines ,and boat damage from rough wakes. The inconvience is short term but damage can be long term. I bet it dont open back up till the lower lot that protects the marina just like last year.

So the marina getting beat up is what is unsafe?

How does that ramp being closed prevent wakes from any other boat going up and down the lake?

[crazyfishinnut]

last year the corp closed both barkley and ky lake to boat traffic when it was high to prevent property damage as well as the ramp having guard rails signs and other fixures under the water.
but to answer your question yes it is about safty as well as property damage. damaged docks are unsafe.
it seams easy for you to complain so i would assume if that was one of your boats at the marina you would be first in line to complain about the ramp being open causing lots of problems there.
the closed ramp doesnt prevent wakes but it minimizes the wakes as there are not large tourny and parking up and down both sides of the road people are not taking risks and parking in a flooded lot. so it isnt about just one thing it is about lots of things. the most important isnt that fisherman have unlimited access it is about being responsible and taking a precaution. there are lots of water and other ramps , fish are everwhere not just in a hole you cant reach, expand you lake knowledge and fish somewere new.

[crigjv]

last year the corp closed both barkley and ky lake to boat traffic when it was high to prevent property damage as well as the ramp having guard rails signs and other fixures under the water.
but to answer your question yes it is about safty as well as property damage. damaged docks are unsafe.
it seams easy for you to complain so i would assume if that was one of your boats at the marina you would be first in line to complain about the ramp being open causing lots of problems there.
the closed ramp doesnt prevent wakes but it minimizes the wakes as there are not large tourny and parking up and down both sides of the road people are not taking risks and parking in a flooded lot. so it isnt about just one thing it is about lots of things. the most important isnt that fisherman have unlimited access it is about being responsible and taking a precaution. there are lots of water and other ramps , fish are everwhere not just in a hole you cant reach, expand you lake knowledge and fish somewere new.

seems to me you do not know your lake knowledge if you got to walnut creek it looks the same as the state even with a guard rail under the water to my knowledge there is nothing there to stop the waves and the idle zone is only near the marina then to the narrows only a small break there and as far as the penisalua there is not one but it is protected by the cove i do not see them complaining about hybrid fisherman in the parking lot there and yes the lower parking lot is under water at the state you need to research about who owns what and runs what the state park is seperate from the marina in fact the park is leased from the core then the marina is owned by one person they have a secondary lease from the state as a ground frontage only to have access to electric and set there gas pump in fact about last year i spoke with sam divine at the state office to have the parking lot cleared and reopen because lisa at the park was dragging her feet on getting it done and the lower parking lot was still under water then i have dealt with many things at the lake so until you have full knowledge get your story straight last year at lbl they closed it do to debri coming down river and the unsafe baoting if barren was unsafe then all ramps would be closed the only reason the other ramps are closed is because the whole parking lots are coverd except the new ramp port oliver and har to launch from a flat surface contact carlos lopez at the core office and ask him yourself number is 646 2055 and if you would like contact to coast guard and officials at the state feel free to ask i have all the available from state commisioner on down the line the only reason it is closed is wayne at the marina is raising enough heck and causing enough problems that they are scared to stand up to him and set him straight when all he has is a ground frontage agreement he does not have anything to do with hte ramp except running to lisa and crying about parking if you do not have enough sense to put a boat in safe stay at home it would be like telling some one that rides a motorcycle he can ride during high traffic volume or telling bicycles they can ride on roads but they obey same laws as vehicles so fell free to email me your number and i will give you a full run down on who and what is in charge over there been there done that

[Tim_T]

seems to me you do not know your lake knowledge if you got to walnut creek it looks the same as the state even with a guard rail under the water to my knowledge there is nothing there to stop the waves and the idle zone is only near the marina then to the narrows only a small break there and as far as the penisalua there is not one but it is protected by the cove i do not see them complaining about hybrid fisherman in the parking lot there and yes the lower parking lot is under water at the state you need to research about who owns what and runs what the state park is seperate from the marina in fact the park is leased from the core then the marina is owned by one person they have a secondary lease from the state as a ground frontage only to have access to electric and set there gas pump in fact about last year i spoke with sam divine at the state office to have the parking lot cleared and reopen because lisa at the park was dragging her feet on getting it done and the lower parking lot was still under water then i have dealt with many things at the lake so until you have full knowledge get your story straight last year at lbl they closed it do to debri coming down river and the unsafe baoting if barren was unsafe then all ramps would be closed the only reason the other ramps are closed is because the whole parking lots are coverd except the new ramp port oliver and har to launch from a flat surface contact carlos lopez at the core office and ask him yourself number is 646 2055 and if you would like contact to coast guard and officials at the state feel free to ask i have all the available from state commisioner on down the line the only reason it is closed is wayne at the marina is raising enough heck and causing enough problems that they are scared to stand up to him and set him straight when all he has is a ground frontage agreement he does not have anything to do with hte ramp except running to lisa and crying about parking if you do not have enough sense to put a boat in safe stay at home it would be like telling some one that rides a motorcycle he can ride during high traffic volume or telling bicycles they can ride on roads but they obey same laws as vehicles so fell free to email me your number and i will give you a full run down on who and what is in charge over there been there done that

I would like to buy a comma, a period or some other form of punctuation please!

Who told you the marina operator is the reason it is closed? Did you actually ask someone in an official capacity why the ramp was closed? I would love to know who told you that it was closed due to the marina operator. If you have a name of an official that said it was closed because of the marina operator and don't want to post than name on here, please PM me the name.

[mkmsports41]

Wow, I tried reading that but got lost. A little punctuation goes a long way!

Wonder why he is so worried about it? Baileys and Walnut Creek are just a 15min drive away. I put in at Baileys yesterday afternoon about 5:30, one boat trailer in the parking lot.

[smashdn]

last year the corp closed both barkley and ky lake to boat traffic when it was high to prevent property damage as well as the ramp having guard rails signs and other fixures under the water.

Say what now?

They closed Barkley and Ky due to all the drift. If you will remember those lakes were opened while still quite high and the bays were never really closed.

This year they were not closed at all while at a higher level. Care to expound on that?

If there are parking spots open at Barren open up the ramp. Simple as that.

You are correct on one thing. I don't really care about the boats at the marina. I observe the no wake signs and that seems plenty good enough.

Please take the time to eplain the difference between the marina at the state park and the one at Walnut creek though.

[crazyfishinnut]

guess it dont matter what we say or what the real reason is you just want to whine about the marina and have your way grow up!! The difference is about 100 tons. one is more forgiving. The state dock broke several steel anchor cables last year with high water. Most was blamed on the wakes. This may or may not have anything to do with it. But either way sounds like you have a problem the reason as long as it isnt what YOU want... selfish I say.