Chubminnow- yeah there's nothing wrong with m/c there's a right way to run it ,yet it's being slapped in on projects that are calling for a pull wire system. By the time engineer's catch up to it they go ahead and accept it as to changing it would put dead line in jeopardy. Then there's Ft. Knox where quality was top workmanship. Lots of the corps. guys are retiring and the younger corps. coming up the ranks don't seem to me to know what their looking at and the quality ain't there. Main thing at Ft. Knox is you have your florescent vest and safety glasses. That's just what I've been seeing the past few years. I do it right or I don't do it at all. We as master electricians do have a code of ethics. And workmanship is in the code book.